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		<title>By: Joe Bulger</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/are-you-creating-toxic-conversation/#comment-35241</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Bulger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, I&#039;ve been writing about Toxic Drama lately.

I read that Christmas post and was caught up in the anticipation of a Hollywood ending. Getting in the car and driving away reminded me that &quot;real life ain&#039;t Hollywood baby.&quot;

People get weird when you break an unspoken rule - like they&#039;ve been handed a free ticket to be toxic. Oh the power of righteous indignation - granting divine permission to unsheathe my mighty sword and slay the offending ogre. 

Joe :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I&#8217;ve been writing about Toxic Drama lately.</p>
<p>I read that Christmas post and was caught up in the anticipation of a Hollywood ending. Getting in the car and driving away reminded me that &#8220;real life ain&#8217;t Hollywood baby.&#8221;</p>
<p>People get weird when you break an unspoken rule &#8211; like they&#8217;ve been handed a free ticket to be toxic. Oh the power of righteous indignation &#8211; granting divine permission to unsheathe my mighty sword and slay the offending ogre. </p>
<p>Joe <img src='http://menwithpens.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Kafka</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/are-you-creating-toxic-conversation/#comment-23639</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Kafka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I vowed two years ago not to have a MySpace account. And you still won&#039;t find me there due to bad publicity and comments.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Michelle Kafka&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://islandwhispers.blogspot.com/2008/12/writing-tool-for-writervirtual-office.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Writing Tool For The Writer/Virtual Office - Zoho&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vowed two years ago not to have a MySpace account. And you still won&#8217;t find me there due to bad publicity and comments.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Michelle Kafka&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://islandwhispers.blogspot.com/2008/12/writing-tool-for-writervirtual-office.html" rel="nofollow">Writing Tool For The Writer/Virtual Office &#8211; Zoho</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Who Would You Date In the Blogosphere? &#124; Men With Pens</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/are-you-creating-toxic-conversation/#comment-21964</link>
		<dc:creator>Who Would You Date In the Blogosphere? &#124; Men With Pens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] With Wackos, itâ€™s all about them. They leave one-liner comments just to get their names out there, and their posts scream, â€œLook at me!â€ Or they can be downright toxic in their comments. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] With Wackos, itâ€™s all about them. They leave one-liner comments just to get their names out there, and their posts scream, â€œLook at me!â€ Or they can be downright toxic in their comments. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Increasing Blog Traffic: Trolls and Drive By Readers : Virtual Impax</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/are-you-creating-toxic-conversation/#comment-10850</link>
		<dc:creator>Increasing Blog Traffic: Trolls and Drive By Readers : Virtual Impax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] While troll like behavior is being touted as a great way to increase blog traffic, I&#8217;d have to guess that instead, this kind of post just merely creates Toxic Conversation. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] While troll like behavior is being touted as a great way to increase blog traffic, I&#8217;d have to guess that instead, this kind of post just merely creates Toxic Conversation. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/are-you-creating-toxic-conversation/#comment-2082</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Laura - So far, it&#039;s all going well. Thanks very much for your comments and thoughts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Laura &#8211; So far, it&#8217;s all going well. Thanks very much for your comments and thoughts!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/are-you-creating-toxic-conversation/#comment-2081</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too could not believe the response you guys received on that Christmas post.  I took it for what it is worth; a learning experience for anyone interested.

I understand some people being a little upset because he didn&#039;t do anything; they have that right.  What I do not think they have a right to do is act like their opinions and holier than thou attitude is better.

James made a decision, apparently with much difficult and stuck by it.  I cannot say I would have made the same decision, because I have been known to give money to the homeless, but I would never, ever put James down because he didn&#039;t do so.

Honestly, those type of responses just prove how ignorant people are.  That is not a put down, just a fact.  I do not think I have ever seen so many assumptions made in a comments section of a post.  We all know what &#039;assume&#039; means.  ;)

Just so you know, I have in the past been known, when I have seen people in need on the street, to just go up and give them cash.  While some would call me stupid and this could lead to them just purchasing alcohol and such; well I beg to differ.  Not all homeless are into drinking alcohol and who am I to judge.  I am there to give, not judge.  I honestly leave it in God&#039;s hands.  What that person does with the money is between them and God (if they believe).  As I stated, it is not my place to judge and I do not preach.  I just give!  This has been wonderful for my children to see and I have always done it in a very public place so I never felt in danger.  :)

Happy New Year and I hope all is going well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too could not believe the response you guys received on that Christmas post.  I took it for what it is worth; a learning experience for anyone interested.</p>
<p>I understand some people being a little upset because he didn&#8217;t do anything; they have that right.  What I do not think they have a right to do is act like their opinions and holier than thou attitude is better.</p>
<p>James made a decision, apparently with much difficult and stuck by it.  I cannot say I would have made the same decision, because I have been known to give money to the homeless, but I would never, ever put James down because he didn&#8217;t do so.</p>
<p>Honestly, those type of responses just prove how ignorant people are.  That is not a put down, just a fact.  I do not think I have ever seen so many assumptions made in a comments section of a post.  We all know what &#8216;assume&#8217; means.  <img src='http://menwithpens.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Just so you know, I have in the past been known, when I have seen people in need on the street, to just go up and give them cash.  While some would call me stupid and this could lead to them just purchasing alcohol and such; well I beg to differ.  Not all homeless are into drinking alcohol and who am I to judge.  I am there to give, not judge.  I honestly leave it in God&#8217;s hands.  What that person does with the money is between them and God (if they believe).  As I stated, it is not my place to judge and I do not preach.  I just give!  This has been wonderful for my children to see and I have always done it in a very public place so I never felt in danger.  <img src='http://menwithpens.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Happy New Year and I hope all is going well!</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/are-you-creating-toxic-conversation/#comment-2092</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 12:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Addicted - Thank you. Your comment means a lot to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Addicted &#8211; Thank you. Your comment means a lot to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Addicted To Writing</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/are-you-creating-toxic-conversation/#comment-2093</link>
		<dc:creator>Addicted To Writing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 16:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I should be surprised by the reaction, but I&#039;m not.  I&#039;ve found on the internet people at times become bold because they are anonymous and say things they most likely wouldn&#039;t say in person.

I read the post the day it was created.  I liked the post because of the honesty, and the fears you expressed were some I&#039;ve had when I&#039;ve encountered some homeless people, even though I do volunteer at a homeless shelter,  I still occasionally have those feelings.  I&#039;m uncertain as to what I should do.

If we all think about it, we&#039;ve faced similar feelings at some point in our lives those who were attacking you were doing what they accused you of doing.  Insulting people is not the way to win people over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I should be surprised by the reaction, but I&#8217;m not.  I&#8217;ve found on the internet people at times become bold because they are anonymous and say things they most likely wouldn&#8217;t say in person.</p>
<p>I read the post the day it was created.  I liked the post because of the honesty, and the fears you expressed were some I&#8217;ve had when I&#8217;ve encountered some homeless people, even though I do volunteer at a homeless shelter,  I still occasionally have those feelings.  I&#8217;m uncertain as to what I should do.</p>
<p>If we all think about it, we&#8217;ve faced similar feelings at some point in our lives those who were attacking you were doing what they accused you of doing.  Insulting people is not the way to win people over.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/are-you-creating-toxic-conversation/#comment-2083</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 11:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Olive - You are correct. Flaming and aggressive attitudes are a problem on the Internet because they are so easy to slip into. I am uber-conscious of how my words look in text, what tone I&#039;m relating and especially, how the other person will interpret my text. People need to be EXTRA careful. What they think sounds witty comes off as condescending. Fun and perky? Rude and obnoxious. Confident and cocky? Arrogant and dictator.

My advantage is that I&#039;ve had years of customer service experience, taken social skills training, quite a number of university courses in psychology, attended seminars on communication, and taken courses in social delegation (which means assisting your co-worker seek help for his drug or alcohol addiction or mental problem or divorce, etc.) Many - MANY - people&#039;s extent of learning social skills comes from peers (not great), families (often dysfunctional) and friends (too relaxed).

But two questions help prevent the problem: Ask yourself, &quot;How many possible ways can the other person hear this message?&quot; and &quot;Why do I *really* want to deliver this type of message to the person?&quot; To hurt? To shame? To feel better about myself? To feel in control?

Or to discuss as two mature people who respect each other?

@ Jeff - Thank you, that&#039;s so cool to hear. And I think you&#039;re absolutely right in everything you said.

@ Melissa - Thank you, too, though brave isn&#039;t usually a quality associated with me. ;) Like Harry said, it&#039;s always the posts we never think will blow up that have us running for cover. The posts that have us saying, &quot;Ooooh man... Are you really going to post that?&quot; are the ones that get the least commentary. Funny how the world works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Olive &#8211; You are correct. Flaming and aggressive attitudes are a problem on the Internet because they are so easy to slip into. I am uber-conscious of how my words look in text, what tone I&#8217;m relating and especially, how the other person will interpret my text. People need to be EXTRA careful. What they think sounds witty comes off as condescending. Fun and perky? Rude and obnoxious. Confident and cocky? Arrogant and dictator.</p>
<p>My advantage is that I&#8217;ve had years of customer service experience, taken social skills training, quite a number of university courses in psychology, attended seminars on communication, and taken courses in social delegation (which means assisting your co-worker seek help for his drug or alcohol addiction or mental problem or divorce, etc.) Many &#8211; MANY &#8211; people&#8217;s extent of learning social skills comes from peers (not great), families (often dysfunctional) and friends (too relaxed).</p>
<p>But two questions help prevent the problem: Ask yourself, &#8220;How many possible ways can the other person hear this message?&#8221; and &#8220;Why do I *really* want to deliver this type of message to the person?&#8221; To hurt? To shame? To feel better about myself? To feel in control?</p>
<p>Or to discuss as two mature people who respect each other?</p>
<p>@ Jeff &#8211; Thank you, that&#8217;s so cool to hear. And I think you&#8217;re absolutely right in everything you said.</p>
<p>@ Melissa &#8211; Thank you, too, though brave isn&#8217;t usually a quality associated with me. <img src='http://menwithpens.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Like Harry said, it&#8217;s always the posts we never think will blow up that have us running for cover. The posts that have us saying, &#8220;Ooooh man&#8230; Are you really going to post that?&#8221; are the ones that get the least commentary. Funny how the world works.</p>
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		<title>By: Olive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 23:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think sometimes people add useless ranting to a conversation over the internet because it&#039;s so anonymous. The world wide web is so impersonal and I think it&#039;s a subconscious thing that makes some people not quite realize that there is a real person on the other end of the line.
Just my two cents..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think sometimes people add useless ranting to a conversation over the internet because it&#8217;s so anonymous. The world wide web is so impersonal and I think it&#8217;s a subconscious thing that makes some people not quite realize that there is a real person on the other end of the line.<br />
Just my two cents..</p>
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