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  1. Brett Legree says:

    I used to work in sales (back in 98-99, company out of Dorval) and my mentor there always used to say, “the customer is always right, even when he’s wrong! This is about sales, not who’s wrong or right!”

    This kind of stuff drives me nuts, and it seems like all of the big stores are going this way (I won’t purchase things from Future Shop or Best Buy because of this, either – and stop pushing a damned extended warranty on my 6 times before I leave the store).

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  2. Kelly says:

    James,

    The best thing about having a blog is getting to steam so the world can hear you, eh? I’ve ranted once or twice myself (What Can You Do That Brown Doesn’t Do?) and it’s a very cool thing.

    It won’t solve the problems of the Big Boys but it should give the little guys who are reading you points to consider, and there are way more little guys than Big Boys. These days, sincere customer service is almost a competitive edge, and improving the human interactive Experience (people dealing with people) is so much easier for smaller companies!

    Loved the post, agreed with you (almost) completely. The customer is not always right; the customer pays your salary, and must always leave happy.

    Regards,

    Kelly

    P.S. Canon A630 from amazon. My town has more than one horse and I still like amazon better.

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  3. I thought you’d gone bonkers when I read the bit about you loving Wallmart.

    What terrible customer service. If they’d handled it better they could have kept you as a customer. Good for you blogging about them. That’s what I love about the Internet – it allows customers to have just as much clout as big businesses.

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  4. @ Brett – The customer *is* always right… in his mind. It’s the provider’s job to find a possible solution that satisfies the customer – even if it’s not what the customer hoped for. As long as he’s happy (or less grumbling), then that’s the right answer.

    @ Kelly – Ha, I never thought about that. I didn’t mean to make the blog a platform to piss on WalMart, but as you said, the end goal is teaching small businesses and lone individuals how to do BETTER than WalMart so they can survive and kick some butt!

    @ Catherine – I love WalMart because it fully satisfies my ADD penchants in that I have continual, high-level stimulation and can wander about where I will. I *never* step in that store unless I have over an hour (or more) to spare, and I *always* bring someone because I can’t stay focused to remember what I came there to buy. Another store I love is any grocery store, for the same reasons. I absolutely *hate* the frozen pizza section, though, because the last time I hit that aisle, I got brain-frozen standing there like an idiot for over 20 minutes. Too much choice, too overwhelming equals I can’t think.

    But all that good stuff aside, WalMart SUCKS at customer service. Absolutely, terribly SUCKS. (So does the quality of their goods.)

  5. Bonus Lesson: Don’t leave until they cave :-)

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  6. I do have one other thing to say in defense/criticism of Wal-Mart – it ain’t the same everywhere.

    There are 2 Wally Worlds here 10 minutes from each other. One is clean, well stocked, the people are friendly and every time I return something it goes smooth as silk, no questions asked. Cashiers are fast and either friendly or neutral.

    The other is a sty, literally has a greasy feel and takes forever to get out of. I feel like I have to take a shower after being there. Needless to say, I don’t go there unless there is no other choice.

    What’s the difference? Read “First, Break All The Rules” – a great book on how individual, store level managers make all the difference between identical stores …

    I’m not defending Wal-Mart as a whole, just giving an example about how individual people make or break customer service. While as a corporation they may be as predatory and callous as an other behemoth, At the store level, a manager can create a totally different experience.

    Dave Navarro – Million Dollar Leverage’s last blog post..By: Men with Pens Web Content Writers and Freelance Writing Services

  7. All it takes is people – and understanding that you’re working with people. Well said, Dave.

  8. Brett Legree says:

    @ James – that is totally correct.

    The first time I was alone in the Ontario satellite office on that sales job, I got a call from a public official up at Collingwood. I realized this about 3 minutes into the call, after I had heard just about every swear word known to humanity.

    Once I got the guy calmed down, I discovered what his problem was (it was a mutual responsibility between Collingwood’s engineering department, and our company). I drove the 2-1/2 hours up to the town, met with this gentleman and his boss, and agreed upon a solution.

    A solution which, by the way, resulted in several thousands of dollars in additional equipment sales for my company.

    I wish I had been on commission that day… :)

    Yeah, I got yelled at for a while and took it on the chin for my company, but the VP Sales took me out for dinner as a thank you!

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  9. Brett Legree says:

    Yes, I second that, well said Dave.

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  10. “All it takes is people – and understanding that you’re working with people.”

    And how to make people cave. That too. :-p

    “My patience is stronger than your policies”
    – Me, to a snarky customer service rep.

    Dave Navarro – Million Dollar Leverage’s last blog post..By: Men with Pens Web Content Writers and Freelance Writing Services

  11. @ Dave – Oh hohohoho… that’s so rich. I’m so stealing that.

  12. here’s another one of my favorites to use to an (innocent) customer service rep who I get to after going through hell:

    “Listen, I’m in a really screwed up situation and I’m really, really mad right now. But I’m not mad at you. I know that you probably get yelled at a lot for things that aren’t your fault and that you have no control over. I’ve been behind the desk just like you and I know you didn’t make this problem, and you probably can’t make it go away, I understand that.

    … Please transfer me to someone I *can* yell at.”

    Dave Navarro – Million Dollar Leverage’s last blog post..By: Men with Pens Web Content Writers and Freelance Writing Services

  13. That’s brilliant. Put the little guy on your side :)

    I have to say that I *always* apologize to clerks and whoever when I’ve been angry and not very nice. It often isn’t their fault that they’re stuck dealing with company policies and a lack of power to create change. Many times, I’ve seen clerks *want* to help but their hands are tied. It isn’t their fault.

  14. Kelly says:

    Dave,

    Boy did I need you today at the mechanic’s. I failed utterly on your bonus lesson, probably because I empathize too much (I have been on both sides of the desk). I felt their pain, but I don’t think I went enough rounds in the ring for them to feel mine.

    James,

    Not that your blog is solely for that purpose, just that when you know the purpose of the blog you can twist these moments of pain into lessons for your readers…

    … this was a web business tip for writers, freelancers, and online entrepreneurs, right?

    ; )

    Regards,

    Kelly

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  15. The day there isn’t something valuable in a post I write is the day that I’ll offer up my blog for destruction.*

    * management reserves the right to change policies, promises missions and philosophies at a moment’s notice without prior warning.

  16. Kelly says:

    Touché.

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  17. Nez says:

    Nice write-up, James. I’m sure everyday millions of (well, maybe 100s of thousands, okay, three) customers have similar experiences.

    One thing great about this thing we call the web is that by writing posts like yours, a lot of people can become informed about it.

    That’s why sites like resellerratings.com are great for researching stores (especially camera stores).

    As such, I do highly recommend Onecall.com — it’s always how they deal with problems (defective goods, wrong items shipped, etc.) that shows me how much they care about their customers.

    Anyway, oftentimes, when everything is okay (right item, everything works), we as customers don’t care. But when something is wrong, that’s when we find out what kind of company we’re dealing with.

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  18. Nez says:

    Nice write-up, James. I’m sure everyday millions of (well, maybe 100s of thousands, okay, three) customers have similar experiences.

    One thing great about this thing we call the web is that by writing posts like yours, a lot of people can become informed about it.

    That’s why sites like resellerratings.com are great for researching stores (especially camera stores).

    As such, I do highly recommend Onecall.com — it’s always how they deal with problems (defective goods, wrong items shipped, etc.) that shows me how much they care about their customers.

    Anyway, oftentimes, when everything is okay (right item, everything works), we as customers don’t care. But when something is wrong, that’s when we find out what kind of company we’re dealing with.

  19. Aggh, I am crazed with frustration on your behalf! You should print out your post and send it to the store manager! Highlight the part about buying a camera at another store. :)

    Shame on Kodak too. Just unacceptable.

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  20. @ Simone – I would, but then I’d have to translate my post. I am *positive* that almost no one in our local WalMart speaks English, despite the fact that the country has *two* official languages…

    @ Nez – You see, my problem is that… well, Dad knows everything. Dad is born with the instinctive knowledge of what is quality and what isn’t and of COURSE a Kodak camera should be quality because Bill Cosby HIMSELF promoted it. And Kodak moments. Come on. Who doesn’t have those? I had one myself just a few minutes ago. Sort of. Well, it involved yelling at my toddler to get OUT of the damned snow when she has no snowpants on… but then she gave me a rock-hard piece of dirty ice from the side of the road and said that was my present because I’m her bestest Daddy ever… so…

    Yeah. Kodak moment.

  21. Good call on the Fuji camera – I’ve had nothing but good experiences with mine.

    I like the way you did this post, with the little lessons interspersed in your story, and it’s all so very true. A customer shouldn’t be treated like a criminal for wanting to return a broken product.

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  22. Harry (@vegaspenman) says:

    Ahhhh, yes…shopping with James. In one word? Exhausting.

    We’re going through a problem with Sprint at the moment here at the house. I switched to Vonage several months ago but Pete keeps getting billed by Sprint for the cell phones we canceled and they’ve refused to stop. I felt so bad for the customer service rep the other night, some of the stuff Pete was saying had me wincing.

    I usually do what Dave does, I tell the little guy I know it’s not their fault, I’m not mad at them, but I want results. Pete ended that conversation with “The next time you hear from me, it’ll be through my lawyer.”

  23. narendra.s.v says:

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  24. Barbara says:

    In defense of WalMart, unfortunately they often have the best prices, and for seniors or individuals living on low or fixed incomes, a savings of a few dollars will often mean those customers can not only get their medication, but will be able to eat and pay their rent.

    Granted the employees at WalMart are probably making minimum wage, may be poorly trained, and hate their job, but often all they can do is to first follow the company policy. Although the customer is “always right”, too many dishonest customers have taken advantage of that philosophy and used the system to their advantage, making it bad for those of us who are honest.

    I often feel sorry for those employees who have to deal with irate customers as it’s not their fault. They are doing the best they can with what they have to work with.

    We have a small business and I know the “buck stops here”, so we always strive for customer satisfaction. After many years of producing quality work, all of our business is now based on referrals. In the end, it pays off.

  25. @ Barbara – Living in a very small town in a low-economy area, I understand perfectly what you’re saying. Many couples (not individuals) live on an income of $10,000 a year around here. WalMart does have its place in the community and has let many people improve their lives. I hear you – I really do.

    Also, WalMart does provide many people who would not otherwise have had jobs with jobs – poor training and shitty customer service aside. There are many who consider themselves very lucky to have those jobs – and I may one day be in their ranks, so I certainly won’t sniff too much about the company.

    It’s really no one’s fault the world is the way it is… but we can all strive to put smiles on our faces, no matter where we work or what we have to face.

 

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