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		<title>By: Weekend Reading: My fav’s from this week: 4/2/10 &#124; Heather Villa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekend Reading: My fav’s from this week: 4/2/10 &#124; Heather Villa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 19:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What To Do When Your Client is Boring &#8211; “No one is goals-oriented. Everyone is chocolate-and-sex-oriented. Make a note.” I figured that would get your attention.    Once you click over there, try not to focus too much on the woman covered in chocolate. Taylor has some great suggestions on how to draw good useful information from your client when all they provide is plain and vanilla answers. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What To Do When Your Client is Boring &#8211; “No one is goals-oriented. Everyone is chocolate-and-sex-oriented. Make a note.” I figured that would get your attention.    Once you click over there, try not to focus too much on the woman covered in chocolate. Taylor has some great suggestions on how to draw good useful information from your client when all they provide is plain and vanilla answers. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Hangen</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/boring-web-copy/#comment-33153</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Hangen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You had me at sex and chocolate.
.-= Nathan Hangen&#180;s last blog ..Podcast: From Blogger to Entrepreneur =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You had me at sex and chocolate.<br />
.-= Nathan Hangen&#180;s last blog ..Podcast: From Blogger to Entrepreneur =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/boring-web-copy/#comment-33136</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A hot topic. I can relate to this problem. I think the solution is often to be found in the client&#039;s product or service. 

Who was it who said &quot;Interrogate the product until it confesses its strengths&quot;? (I&#039;ve seen it attributed to David Ogilvy, John Hegarty and Robin Wight) Whoever it was, was right. The more you look into that product or service the more likely you are to discover something amazing and relevant which, when turned into an ad, or woven into your copy, will add a bit of chocolatey sexiness to your client&#039;s brand.
.-= Dean&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.londoncopywriter.co.uk/index.php/2010/03/web-banners-an-effective-ad-medium/&quot;&gt;Are banners an effective ad medium?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A hot topic. I can relate to this problem. I think the solution is often to be found in the client&#8217;s product or service. </p>
<p>Who was it who said &#8220;Interrogate the product until it confesses its strengths&#8221;? (I&#8217;ve seen it attributed to David Ogilvy, John Hegarty and Robin Wight) Whoever it was, was right. The more you look into that product or service the more likely you are to discover something amazing and relevant which, when turned into an ad, or woven into your copy, will add a bit of chocolatey sexiness to your client&#8217;s brand.<br />
.-= Dean&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.londoncopywriter.co.uk/index.php/2010/03/web-banners-an-effective-ad-medium/">Are banners an effective ad medium?</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Villa</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/boring-web-copy/#comment-33134</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather Villa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 09:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Taylor! Getting your client to relax and their thoughts on something other than their work/website/business is a great way to really learn the details that make them unique. Getting that business persona down can be the hardest obstacle.  


&quot;No one is goals-oriented. Everyone is chocolate-and-sex-oriented. Make a note.&quot; I love this! How very insightful. Reminds me of, &#039;All work and no play make Jack a dull boy.&quot;
.-= Heather Villa&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://hireheathervilla.com/2010/03/26/weekend-reading-my-fav%E2%80%99s-from-this-week-32610/&quot;&gt;Weekend Reading: My fav’s from this week: 3/26/10&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Taylor! Getting your client to relax and their thoughts on something other than their work/website/business is a great way to really learn the details that make them unique. Getting that business persona down can be the hardest obstacle.  </p>
<p>&#8220;No one is goals-oriented. Everyone is chocolate-and-sex-oriented. Make a note.&#8221; I love this! How very insightful. Reminds me of, &#8216;All work and no play make Jack a dull boy.&#8221;<br />
.-= Heather Villa&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://hireheathervilla.com/2010/03/26/weekend-reading-my-fav%E2%80%99s-from-this-week-32610/">Weekend Reading: My fav’s from this week: 3/26/10</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/boring-web-copy/#comment-33123</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 04:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it&#039;s a bit tougher if the client is boring. Even if you don&#039;t want that kind of client, you can&#039;t refuse and you should only see it as a challenge and give yourself a pat on the back if you jazz it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it&#8217;s a bit tougher if the client is boring. Even if you don&#8217;t want that kind of client, you can&#8217;t refuse and you should only see it as a challenge and give yourself a pat on the back if you jazz it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Maynard</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/boring-web-copy/#comment-33119</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy Maynard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup. Been there. Done that. 

I&#039;ve worked with many professional service firms - think accountants, medical practices, and lawyers. Yawnfest. But, they don&#039;t really want to sound like that way. They can&#039;t help it. 

As Jessica Rabbit says: &quot;I&#039;m not bad. I&#039;m just drawn that way.&quot;

And lawyers need love too. (Did I just say that? I&#039;ll have to think about whether I really mean it.)

For the most part, my clients get it when I tell them that they need to have copy that speaks to the layperson and is a little spicier. A lot of them really like the shift. Some are stuck, stuck, stuck and will never escape. 

Now, I can&#039;t get all babe-covered-in-chocolate-sauce since they are often targeting other bad rabbits. But, I can certainly write in a way that is friendly, down to earth, and in alignment with their brand.

Best, Wendy
.-= Wendy Maynard&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/MavenDiaryWendyMaynard/~3/SJd1d1r3HJY/&quot;&gt;How to Turn Your Twitter Favorites Into Testimonials Using Fireshot&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup. Been there. Done that. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked with many professional service firms &#8211; think accountants, medical practices, and lawyers. Yawnfest. But, they don&#8217;t really want to sound like that way. They can&#8217;t help it. </p>
<p>As Jessica Rabbit says: &#8220;I&#8217;m not bad. I&#8217;m just drawn that way.&#8221;</p>
<p>And lawyers need love too. (Did I just say that? I&#8217;ll have to think about whether I really mean it.)</p>
<p>For the most part, my clients get it when I tell them that they need to have copy that speaks to the layperson and is a little spicier. A lot of them really like the shift. Some are stuck, stuck, stuck and will never escape. </p>
<p>Now, I can&#8217;t get all babe-covered-in-chocolate-sauce since they are often targeting other bad rabbits. But, I can certainly write in a way that is friendly, down to earth, and in alignment with their brand.</p>
<p>Best, Wendy<br />
.-= Wendy Maynard&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/MavenDiaryWendyMaynard/~3/SJd1d1r3HJY/">How to Turn Your Twitter Favorites Into Testimonials Using Fireshot</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Cowles</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/boring-web-copy/#comment-33104</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Cowles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 02:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the excellent article!  I don&#039;t know how many times I have been given the &quot;Job Interview&quot; answers from clients.  Not only did I laugh a few times from the article, but also learned a few new tactics.
.-= Ryan Cowles&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metacomdesign.com/blog/2010/03/amber-stevens-new-website-launch/&quot;&gt;Amber Stevens New Website Launch&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the excellent article!  I don&#8217;t know how many times I have been given the &#8220;Job Interview&#8221; answers from clients.  Not only did I laugh a few times from the article, but also learned a few new tactics.<br />
.-= Ryan Cowles&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.metacomdesign.com/blog/2010/03/amber-stevens-new-website-launch/">Amber Stevens New Website Launch</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get this all the time at work. Or demanding clients who want what they want when they want it, but don&#039;t know what they actually -want-. It&#039;s my job as a writer and multimedia specialist to read the subtle cues, give them options, and weed out what they don&#039;t want. It&#039;s part of the challenge and can actually be fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get this all the time at work. Or demanding clients who want what they want when they want it, but don&#8217;t know what they actually -want-. It&#8217;s my job as a writer and multimedia specialist to read the subtle cues, give them options, and weed out what they don&#8217;t want. It&#8217;s part of the challenge and can actually be fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Merryl Rosenthal</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/boring-web-copy/#comment-33099</link>
		<dc:creator>Merryl Rosenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a great article. 

Because I&#039;m a regular ham with a sense of humor, interviews have rarely been a problem for me. I put subjects at ease and loosen them up with funny, and always appropriate, comments and brief anecdotes that may or may not have anything to do with the company. 

If my &quot;personality&quot; doesn&#039;t work, I&#039;ll ask subjects a question as simple as &quot;What&#039;s your favorite color?&quot; or &quot;How do you relax?&quot; or &quot;I see from that photo on your wall that you&#039;re a skier&quot; and use the information to get things going.

If you approach the interview as though you were talking with a friend--respectfully and within professional parameters, of course--you&#039;d be amazed by how much information will come spilling out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a great article. </p>
<p>Because I&#8217;m a regular ham with a sense of humor, interviews have rarely been a problem for me. I put subjects at ease and loosen them up with funny, and always appropriate, comments and brief anecdotes that may or may not have anything to do with the company. </p>
<p>If my &#8220;personality&#8221; doesn&#8217;t work, I&#8217;ll ask subjects a question as simple as &#8220;What&#8217;s your favorite color?&#8221; or &#8220;How do you relax?&#8221; or &#8220;I see from that photo on your wall that you&#8217;re a skier&#8221; and use the information to get things going.</p>
<p>If you approach the interview as though you were talking with a friend&#8211;respectfully and within professional parameters, of course&#8211;you&#8217;d be amazed by how much information will come spilling out.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Burgess</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/boring-web-copy/#comment-33096</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the &quot;call them up on the phone&quot; suggestion. Normally I ask them to explain their business as they would to their grandparents... that normally gets the client to skirt around corporate boilerplate :)
.-= Matt Burgess&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://conversationmedia.com.au/social-media-marketing/how-social-media-experts-let-nestle-down-badly&quot;&gt;How “Social Media Experts” let Nestle down. Badly.&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the &#8220;call them up on the phone&#8221; suggestion. Normally I ask them to explain their business as they would to their grandparents&#8230; that normally gets the client to skirt around corporate boilerplate <img src='http://cdn.menwithpens.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
.-= Matt Burgess&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://conversationmedia.com.au/social-media-marketing/how-social-media-experts-let-nestle-down-badly">How “Social Media Experts” let Nestle down. Badly.</a> =-.</p>
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