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		<title>By: Brett Legree</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/do-images-move-you-too-much/#comment-9677</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Legree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 00:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James,

It&#039;s sort of like judging a book by it&#039;s cover.  Well, it&#039;s exactly like doing that.

I&#039;ve done that many times (probably everyone has).  My most memorable one had to be the movie &quot;The Silence of the Lambs&quot;.  I remember when it was in theatre, I thought, &quot;that sounds like a dumb movie, I&#039;d never want to see it&quot;.

I hadn&#039;t seen a trailer, of course, or read any reviews.  So I really had no idea.  Then a friend of mine said, &quot;seriously dude, you have to see that movie&quot;.

Similarly many folks I know have said they don&#039;t want to watch &quot;Fight Club&quot; because they think it&#039;s just about guys fighting.  And so I say, &quot;you have no idea - do yourself a favour and just watch the movie&quot;.

&lt;em&gt;Brett Legree&#039;s last blog post..best laid plans.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sort of like judging a book by it&#8217;s cover.  Well, it&#8217;s exactly like doing that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done that many times (probably everyone has).  My most memorable one had to be the movie &#8220;The Silence of the Lambs&#8221;.  I remember when it was in theatre, I thought, &#8220;that sounds like a dumb movie, I&#8217;d never want to see it&#8221;.</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t seen a trailer, of course, or read any reviews.  So I really had no idea.  Then a friend of mine said, &#8220;seriously dude, you have to see that movie&#8221;.</p>
<p>Similarly many folks I know have said they don&#8217;t want to watch &#8220;Fight Club&#8221; because they think it&#8217;s just about guys fighting.  And so I say, &#8220;you have no idea &#8211; do yourself a favour and just watch the movie&#8221;.</p>
<p><em>Brett Legree&#8217;s last blog post..best laid plans.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Tei - Rogue Ink</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/do-images-move-you-too-much/#comment-9660</link>
		<dc:creator>Tei - Rogue Ink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 19:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James: 

No. 

HAH! See? I am WOMAN, damn it! I can DEFY you! And clearly I must assert this regularly else you FORGET! 

No, seriously, I&#039;m writing copy now, Naomi&#039;s going to look at it in two days, and I will be back home then, and everything will be made of awesome. I have a schedule, I swear. CommentLuv will ensue. 

It&#039;s just that damned &#039;making money for rent&#039; factor. Sops up all the time I have, like a big fluffy biscuit of time-soppage.

&lt;em&gt;Tei - Rogue Ink&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://rogueink.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/roleplaying-for-writers-or-why-its-cool-to-geek-out/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Roleplaying for Writers, Or Why It&#039;s Cool to Geek Out.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James: </p>
<p>No. </p>
<p>HAH! See? I am WOMAN, damn it! I can DEFY you! And clearly I must assert this regularly else you FORGET! </p>
<p>No, seriously, I&#8217;m writing copy now, Naomi&#8217;s going to look at it in two days, and I will be back home then, and everything will be made of awesome. I have a schedule, I swear. CommentLuv will ensue. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just that damned &#8216;making money for rent&#8217; factor. Sops up all the time I have, like a big fluffy biscuit of time-soppage.</p>
<p><em>Tei &#8211; Rogue Ink&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://rogueink.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/roleplaying-for-writers-or-why-its-cool-to-geek-out/' rel="nofollow">Roleplaying for Writers, Or Why It&#8217;s Cool to Geek Out.</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/do-images-move-you-too-much/#comment-9609</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 01:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time for some comments:

@ Brett - You bring up something valuable. It truly *is* a shame that someone would choose not to pursue what he or she found important simply over a disagreement. 

I wonder if this isn&#039;t our Canadian way coming into play. I&#039;ve communicated with many Canadians and we all tend to say the same thing: Canucks rock at debate and it&#039;s all good at the end of the day. Plus, we tend to be very diplomatic about it. 

I believe that other cultures don&#039;t debate and discuss in the way we tend to do (and are raise to do). I may be wrong, though. Just a thought.

@ Colleen - I appreciate that you don&#039;t always agree with us. I don&#039;t want you to, either. Now, about that fanservience, though...  ;)

@ Barbara - The more we age, the more a sleepless night kicks our ass. Rest well.

@ Steph - Honestly, what strikes me about the picture is the eyes as well. I&#039;ve had it for a while and wanted a place that I could use it. The picture does carry emotion, but you brought out something I never thought of - we never specified what emotion, because we realized that we see the woman in many different ways. It&#039;s a picture wide open to subjective opinion, which is part of what makes it cool, I guess.

And I saw a duck, too.

@ Vered - Thank you. I appreciate that. You are right, too. There are many, many pictures out there that are just disgusting or that completely disturb me, and I would never post them here.

@ Rebecca - And getting people to think a little more is exactly what we want. I&#039;m glad we accomplish that.

@ Tei - I want to frame that comment, because I think you said something so very strong that it should be said over and again. Thank you for your support. Now move your fucking blog, would you? Sheesh.

@ Rhodester - Apparently, the best way to stir up controversy is to write something you believe is completely harmless. And when you want a meh response, try to set your own blog on fire. This technique seems to work for me every time. I have yet to figure out if I&#039;m arse backwards or my readers are.

@ Chad - I think Rhodester could use your help... ;)

@ Janice - Ha, I knew you&#039;d have a ton to say. And this: &quot;Weâ€™re intelligent people here who can handle a variety of topics and visuals.&quot; This is good. Yes. That&#039;s what I&#039;d hope of people in general, and I&#039;m glad to hear you shout it.

Don&#039;t shout the bit about thorn in side, hot tempers, and stubbornness, though. I prefer the PC-terms charming, adorable and sweet.

@ Kelly - You made me grin. Yeah, it&#039;s a good life. And this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;What the intelligent professionals who linger here appreciate most is the ability to shout disagreements and the twelve sides of every story at least a couple of times weekly to the Men. They shape our thoughts a bit, and we mould theirs, too.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

...is fantastic. YES! What I love the most about all the community here is that people aren&#039;t afraid to speak out and discuss and debate - and NO ONE gets all pissy or twisted out of shape. THAT is the Canadian way.

So is the way you spelled mould. I&#039;m so very proud of you.

@ Janice again - No lavender and sand here, thanks. Though they&#039;re two perfectly lovely colors... but... uh... chrome and black, yes?

@ Michael - &lt;blockquote&gt;Blog comments are so weird that way. Itâ€™s like the blog is a screen onto which people project whatever they want to see and then react as if it were undisputed reality.&lt;/blockquote&gt;  

That&#039;s so true. That&#039;s so, so true. There&#039;s a lot of projection in blog commenting and a great deal of straw men being tossed about too. It is weird.

I find the sex thing another Canadian/American thing. It&#039;s really not a big deal to us, generally. We&#039;re not quite nudist Europeans but skin is skin. Big deal. I mean, when we have many provinces where the women petitioned to have the right to go topless legally on the streets - and they won - sex isn&#039;t much of a fuss.

And I&#039;ll continue to damn us all, don&#039;t worry. My road to hell is already paved with good intentions. Too far to turn around now ;)

@ Everyone - If the issue was a woman being subdued, how come no one got upset about the man that was subdued in the other picture? I mean, damn. He looked like he was about to get the crap beaten out of him... and that was okay, but a &quot;hush&quot; picture wasn&#039;t?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time for some comments:</p>
<p>@ Brett &#8211; You bring up something valuable. It truly *is* a shame that someone would choose not to pursue what he or she found important simply over a disagreement. </p>
<p>I wonder if this isn&#8217;t our Canadian way coming into play. I&#8217;ve communicated with many Canadians and we all tend to say the same thing: Canucks rock at debate and it&#8217;s all good at the end of the day. Plus, we tend to be very diplomatic about it. </p>
<p>I believe that other cultures don&#8217;t debate and discuss in the way we tend to do (and are raise to do). I may be wrong, though. Just a thought.</p>
<p>@ Colleen &#8211; I appreciate that you don&#8217;t always agree with us. I don&#8217;t want you to, either. Now, about that fanservience, though&#8230;  <img src='http://cdn.menwithpens.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ Barbara &#8211; The more we age, the more a sleepless night kicks our ass. Rest well.</p>
<p>@ Steph &#8211; Honestly, what strikes me about the picture is the eyes as well. I&#8217;ve had it for a while and wanted a place that I could use it. The picture does carry emotion, but you brought out something I never thought of &#8211; we never specified what emotion, because we realized that we see the woman in many different ways. It&#8217;s a picture wide open to subjective opinion, which is part of what makes it cool, I guess.</p>
<p>And I saw a duck, too.</p>
<p>@ Vered &#8211; Thank you. I appreciate that. You are right, too. There are many, many pictures out there that are just disgusting or that completely disturb me, and I would never post them here.</p>
<p>@ Rebecca &#8211; And getting people to think a little more is exactly what we want. I&#8217;m glad we accomplish that.</p>
<p>@ Tei &#8211; I want to frame that comment, because I think you said something so very strong that it should be said over and again. Thank you for your support. Now move your fucking blog, would you? Sheesh.</p>
<p>@ Rhodester &#8211; Apparently, the best way to stir up controversy is to write something you believe is completely harmless. And when you want a meh response, try to set your own blog on fire. This technique seems to work for me every time. I have yet to figure out if I&#8217;m arse backwards or my readers are.</p>
<p>@ Chad &#8211; I think Rhodester could use your help&#8230; <img src='http://cdn.menwithpens.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ Janice &#8211; Ha, I knew you&#8217;d have a ton to say. And this: &#8220;Weâ€™re intelligent people here who can handle a variety of topics and visuals.&#8221; This is good. Yes. That&#8217;s what I&#8217;d hope of people in general, and I&#8217;m glad to hear you shout it.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t shout the bit about thorn in side, hot tempers, and stubbornness, though. I prefer the PC-terms charming, adorable and sweet.</p>
<p>@ Kelly &#8211; You made me grin. Yeah, it&#8217;s a good life. And this:</p>
<blockquote><p>What the intelligent professionals who linger here appreciate most is the ability to shout disagreements and the twelve sides of every story at least a couple of times weekly to the Men. They shape our thoughts a bit, and we mould theirs, too.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;is fantastic. YES! What I love the most about all the community here is that people aren&#8217;t afraid to speak out and discuss and debate &#8211; and NO ONE gets all pissy or twisted out of shape. THAT is the Canadian way.</p>
<p>So is the way you spelled mould. I&#8217;m so very proud of you.</p>
<p>@ Janice again &#8211; No lavender and sand here, thanks. Though they&#8217;re two perfectly lovely colors&#8230; but&#8230; uh&#8230; chrome and black, yes?</p>
<p>@ Michael &#8211;<br />
<blockquote>Blog comments are so weird that way. Itâ€™s like the blog is a screen onto which people project whatever they want to see and then react as if it were undisputed reality.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s so true. That&#8217;s so, so true. There&#8217;s a lot of projection in blog commenting and a great deal of straw men being tossed about too. It is weird.</p>
<p>I find the sex thing another Canadian/American thing. It&#8217;s really not a big deal to us, generally. We&#8217;re not quite nudist Europeans but skin is skin. Big deal. I mean, when we have many provinces where the women petitioned to have the right to go topless legally on the streets &#8211; and they won &#8211; sex isn&#8217;t much of a fuss.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ll continue to damn us all, don&#8217;t worry. My road to hell is already paved with good intentions. Too far to turn around now <img src='http://cdn.menwithpens.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ Everyone &#8211; If the issue was a woman being subdued, how come no one got upset about the man that was subdued in the other picture? I mean, damn. He looked like he was about to get the crap beaten out of him&#8230; and that was okay, but a &#8220;hush&#8221; picture wasn&#8217;t?</p>
<p>*confused*</p>
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		<title>By: Depression and Anxiety - Unexpected Triggers &#124; Fraying Edges &#124; Depression Help</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/do-images-move-you-too-much/#comment-9608</link>
		<dc:creator>Depression and Anxiety - Unexpected Triggers &#124; Fraying Edges &#124; Depression Help</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 01:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] today, I was checking out emails from the blogs I follow, when I found a post about images and the way our reception of images depends very much on our own life experiences. I agree with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] today, I was checking out emails from the blogs I follow, when I found a post about images and the way our reception of images depends very much on our own life experiences. I agree with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Janice C Cartier</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/do-images-move-you-too-much/#comment-9607</link>
		<dc:creator>Janice C Cartier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 22:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well, you are on target there.  Like mirrors, those.  :)

&lt;em&gt;Janice C Cartier&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/cartier/paintings/~3/301302712/uh-oh-its-getting-little-whacky.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Uh Oh, It&#039;s Getting A Little Whacky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well, you are on target there.  Like mirrors, those.  <img src='http://cdn.menwithpens.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><em>Janice C Cartier&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/cartier/paintings/~3/301302712/uh-oh-its-getting-little-whacky.html' rel="nofollow">Uh Oh, It&#8217;s Getting A Little Whacky</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Martine &#124; Remarkablogger</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/do-images-move-you-too-much/#comment-9606</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Martine &#124; Remarkablogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 22:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Janice - I was speaking about blog commenting in general, not about that specific image. No biggie.

&lt;em&gt;Michael Martine &#124; Remarkablogger&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://michaelmartine.com/2008/05/30/the-5-elements-every-business-blog-must-have/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The 5 Elements Every Business Blog Must Have&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Janice &#8211; I was speaking about blog commenting in general, not about that specific image. No biggie.</p>
<p><em>Michael Martine | Remarkablogger&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://michaelmartine.com/2008/05/30/the-5-elements-every-business-blog-must-have/' rel="nofollow">The 5 Elements Every Business Blog Must Have</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Janice C Cartier</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/do-images-move-you-too-much/#comment-9605</link>
		<dc:creator>Janice C Cartier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Michael- &quot;thereâ€™s one thing people get messed up about, itâ€™s sex. &quot;

I am not privy to any emails complaining, but I did go back and look at the hand over mouth image again and looked for Laura and Dianne&#039;s comments. They are not objecting about sex, but about power or control in their view. A woman is being subdued for whatever reason.
It wasn&#039;t an issue of  sex for them.

&lt;em&gt;Janice C Cartier&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/cartier/paintings/~3/301302712/uh-oh-its-getting-little-whacky.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Uh Oh, It&#039;s Getting A Little Whacky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Michael- &#8220;thereâ€™s one thing people get messed up about, itâ€™s sex. &#8221;</p>
<p>I am not privy to any emails complaining, but I did go back and look at the hand over mouth image again and looked for Laura and Dianne&#8217;s comments. They are not objecting about sex, but about power or control in their view. A woman is being subdued for whatever reason.<br />
It wasn&#8217;t an issue of  sex for them.</p>
<p><em>Janice C Cartier&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/cartier/paintings/~3/301302712/uh-oh-its-getting-little-whacky.html' rel="nofollow">Uh Oh, It&#8217;s Getting A Little Whacky</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Martine &#124; Remarkablogger</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/do-images-move-you-too-much/#comment-9603</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Martine &#124; Remarkablogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And what you see is no reflection on who you are.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

When I read that my first thought was: &quot;bullshit!&quot; But then I thought about it some more and came to this: what we see is a reflection on what we&#039;ve been through, what has made us and formed us up to this point in time. 

And boy, if there&#039;s one thing people get messed up about, it&#039;s sex. And when they complain about something like that in comments, it&#039;s because of what they see in themselves, not because of what they see in you. Blog comments are so weird that way. It&#039;s like the blog is a screen onto which people project whatever they want to see and then react as if it were undisputed reality.

You&#039;re right about being damned if you do and damned if you don&#039;t. But I&#039;ll take damned over boring any day.

&lt;em&gt;Michael Martine &#124; Remarkablogger&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://michaelmartine.com/2008/05/30/the-5-elements-every-business-blog-must-have/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The 5 Elements Every Business Blog Must Have&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And what you see is no reflection on who you are.</p></blockquote>
<p>When I read that my first thought was: &#8220;bullshit!&#8221; But then I thought about it some more and came to this: what we see is a reflection on what we&#8217;ve been through, what has made us and formed us up to this point in time. </p>
<p>And boy, if there&#8217;s one thing people get messed up about, it&#8217;s sex. And when they complain about something like that in comments, it&#8217;s because of what they see in themselves, not because of what they see in you. Blog comments are so weird that way. It&#8217;s like the blog is a screen onto which people project whatever they want to see and then react as if it were undisputed reality.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right about being damned if you do and damned if you don&#8217;t. But I&#8217;ll take damned over boring any day.</p>
<p><em>Michael Martine | Remarkablogger&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://michaelmartine.com/2008/05/30/the-5-elements-every-business-blog-must-have/' rel="nofollow">The 5 Elements Every Business Blog Must Have</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Janice Cartier</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/do-images-move-you-too-much/#comment-9601</link>
		<dc:creator>Janice Cartier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 19:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I hear you on that!  :)

&lt;em&gt;Janice Cartier&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/cartier/paintings/~3/301302712/uh-oh-its-getting-little-whacky.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Uh Oh, It&#039;s Getting A Little Whacky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I hear you on that!  <img src='http://cdn.menwithpens.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><em>Janice Cartier&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/cartier/paintings/~3/301302712/uh-oh-its-getting-little-whacky.html' rel="nofollow">Uh Oh, It&#8217;s Getting A Little Whacky</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 19:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janice,

Lavender and sand are awesome. :)

Now, if I could only get a second opinion...

Later,

Kelly

&lt;em&gt;Kelly&#039;s last blog post..3 Essential Points for the Business Bilingue&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janice,</p>
<p>Lavender and sand are awesome. <img src='http://cdn.menwithpens.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Now, if I could only get a second opinion&#8230;</p>
<p>Later,</p>
<p>Kelly</p>
<p><em>Kelly&#8217;s last blog post..3 Essential Points for the Business Bilingue</em></p>
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