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		<title>By: Recommended reading for writers &#8211; January 2009 &#171; Write for Your Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Recommended reading for writers &#8211; January 2009 &#171; Write for Your Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fiction Writing: Don&#8217;t Touch My Character &#124; Men With Pens If you&#8217;ve ever worked with someone else on your writing, whatever your medium, you&#8217;ll know that sometimes you have to compromise to make it happen. That&#8217;s what this is about. It&#8217;s good. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fiction Writing: Don&#8217;t Touch My Character | Men With Pens If you&#8217;ve ever worked with someone else on your writing, whatever your medium, you&#8217;ll know that sometimes you have to compromise to make it happen. That&#8217;s what this is about. It&#8217;s good. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A bit of a tidy up &#124; Iain Broome</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/dont-touch-my-character/#comment-24541</link>
		<dc:creator>A bit of a tidy up &#124; Iain Broome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 00:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with some writer friends. We&#8217;re thinking of writing a script together. Having recently read this post about collaborative projects, I&#8217;m in the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Recommended reading for writers &#124; January 2009 &#124; Write for Your Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Recommended reading for writers &#124; January 2009 &#124; Write for Your Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fiction Writing: Don&#8217;t Touch My Character &#124; Men With Pens If you&#8217;ve ever worked with someone else on your writing, whatever your medium, you&#8217;ll know that sometimes you have to compromise to make it happen. That&#8217;s what this is about. It&#8217;s good. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jamie Grove - How Not To Write</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/dont-touch-my-character/#comment-24150</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Grove - How Not To Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, I like your advice.

Creating characters often involves carving out a part of your mind and giving it over to a totally different personality.  When successful, you create believable characters who live and breathe (because they are in fact living inside you).  When you fail, well, let&#039;s just say that it isn&#039;t pretty.

Tandem-writing doubles the chance for failure because two minds need to grasp that character.  It&#039;s one of the most difficult skills to pick up in the crafting of fiction.  That&#039;s probably why there are so few successful collaborators...

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jamie Grove - How Not To Write&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/HowNotToWrite/~3/b6AhAJjDBg4/&quot;&gt;Help Me With My 2009 Clarion West Choices Maybe Win A Book&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I like your advice.</p>
<p>Creating characters often involves carving out a part of your mind and giving it over to a totally different personality.  When successful, you create believable characters who live and breathe (because they are in fact living inside you).  When you fail, well, let&#8217;s just say that it isn&#8217;t pretty.</p>
<p>Tandem-writing doubles the chance for failure because two minds need to grasp that character.  It&#8217;s one of the most difficult skills to pick up in the crafting of fiction.  That&#8217;s probably why there are so few successful collaborators&#8230;</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Jamie Grove &#8211; How Not To Write&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/HowNotToWrite/~3/b6AhAJjDBg4/">Help Me With My 2009 Clarion West Choices Maybe Win A Book</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/dont-touch-my-character/#comment-24011</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Patrick - Every day should be play day. I agree.

@ Tony - The good part about Escaping Reality is that we don&#039;t allow players to use other players&#039; characters in any way. The collaboration is simply that we build a story together. Every action, thought and dialogue is completely single-player. 

You should try it. I&#039;d have fun with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Patrick &#8211; Every day should be play day. I agree.</p>
<p>@ Tony &#8211; The good part about Escaping Reality is that we don&#8217;t allow players to use other players&#8217; characters in any way. The collaboration is simply that we build a story together. Every action, thought and dialogue is completely single-player. </p>
<p>You should try it. I&#8217;d have fun with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Very Evolved</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/dont-touch-my-character/#comment-24009</link>
		<dc:creator>Very Evolved</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James
Feel free to drop by my site, or drop me a line anytime! And on being a scientist; it is a really fun job, I get to see something new everyday. -But honestly, the best thing is it means I can still be kid and stare in wide-eyed wonder at things, play with them, and get paid for it.

Everyday should be playday, no?

Patrick

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Very Evolved&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://veryevolved.com/2009/01/why-it%E2%80%99s-hard-to-change-bad-habits-and-what-you-can-do-about-it/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why itâ€™s hard to change bad habits, and what you can do about it&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James<br />
Feel free to drop by my site, or drop me a line anytime! And on being a scientist; it is a really fun job, I get to see something new everyday. -But honestly, the best thing is it means I can still be kid and stare in wide-eyed wonder at things, play with them, and get paid for it.</p>
<p>Everyday should be playday, no?</p>
<p>Patrick</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Very Evolved&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://veryevolved.com/2009/01/why-it%E2%80%99s-hard-to-change-bad-habits-and-what-you-can-do-about-it/" rel="nofollow">Why itâ€™s hard to change bad habits, and what you can do about it</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Tony Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t collaborate either - not for the reasons Note gave but just because I&#039;m too opinionated - I want everything MY way.

You know the old &quot;Lead, follow or get out of the way&quot; ?  Mine is &quot;Do whatever you want:  I&#039;m doing THIS!&quot;

I come by it honestly: my dad was the same way..  

When you announced your collaborative writing project, I was interested but I knew I could never do it..

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Tony Lawrence&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/aplawrence/ZPYH/~3/510995180/open_office_pages.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Understanding automatic blank Pages in Open Office&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t collaborate either &#8211; not for the reasons Note gave but just because I&#8217;m too opinionated &#8211; I want everything MY way.</p>
<p>You know the old &#8220;Lead, follow or get out of the way&#8221; ?  Mine is &#8220;Do whatever you want:  I&#8217;m doing THIS!&#8221;</p>
<p>I come by it honestly: my dad was the same way..  </p>
<p>When you announced your collaborative writing project, I was interested but I knew I could never do it..</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Tony Lawrence&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/aplawrence/ZPYH/~3/510995180/open_office_pages.html" rel="nofollow">Understanding automatic blank Pages in Open Office</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Patrick - If you&#039;re a neuroscientist, I think you just became someone I&#039;d love to sit down immediately and chatter away to. What a fantastic career!

@ Karen - While writing this post, I was thinking about authors and related fanfiction sites. How do they feel seeing their characters tossed around? Do they feel great because it&#039;s a high form of praise? Do they love that their readers love their characters that much that they want to keep them going? Or do they think the opposite, that they wished it didn&#039;t exist? 

@ Robyn - When Harry and I share a character, it&#039;s always one that we really have no personal interest in, the NPCs, as it were. &quot;Lady in the shop&quot; isn&#039;t someone we created with a ton of love, so it&#039;s easier to pass back and forth.

@ Iain - Did you each write specific scenes and then swap to edit and check, or did you go as far as full chapters?

@ Note - Hm... I find I don&#039;t say, â€œWhy didnâ€™t I think of that?â€ but rather, &quot;Great idea! (now how to use it...)&quot;  So you find suggestions and guidelines limit your creativity instead of helping it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Patrick &#8211; If you&#8217;re a neuroscientist, I think you just became someone I&#8217;d love to sit down immediately and chatter away to. What a fantastic career!</p>
<p>@ Karen &#8211; While writing this post, I was thinking about authors and related fanfiction sites. How do they feel seeing their characters tossed around? Do they feel great because it&#8217;s a high form of praise? Do they love that their readers love their characters that much that they want to keep them going? Or do they think the opposite, that they wished it didn&#8217;t exist? </p>
<p>@ Robyn &#8211; When Harry and I share a character, it&#8217;s always one that we really have no personal interest in, the NPCs, as it were. &#8220;Lady in the shop&#8221; isn&#8217;t someone we created with a ton of love, so it&#8217;s easier to pass back and forth.</p>
<p>@ Iain &#8211; Did you each write specific scenes and then swap to edit and check, or did you go as far as full chapters?</p>
<p>@ Note &#8211; Hm&#8230; I find I don&#8217;t say, â€œWhy didnâ€™t I think of that?â€ but rather, &#8220;Great idea! (now how to use it&#8230;)&#8221;  So you find suggestions and guidelines limit your creativity instead of helping it?</p>
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		<title>By: Very Evolved</title>
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		<dc:creator>Very Evolved</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice examination James.
The ability to create fiction is just an amazing facet of the human brain - I&#039;m a neuroscientist and I&#039;m constantly fascinated by the ability of the mind to create entire worlds from nothing but past experience and a suspension of reality.
This is also the trouble with some collaborations - the synthesis of fiction almost never happens in two people the same way. Still if you can channel the emotional attachment to your creations and the conflict with your collaborator into your work then it just might be the greatest thing ever.
From a neuroscience perspective there&#039;s a lot of biology behind &lt;a href=&quot;http://veryevolved.com/2009/01/how-to-generate-an-emotional-response-from-your-audience/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;generating an emotional response from your readers&lt;/a&gt; which I&#039;m continuing to explore at my site.

Patrick

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Very Evolved&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://veryevolved.com/2009/01/why-it%E2%80%99s-hard-to-change-bad-habits-and-what-you-can-do-about-it/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why itâ€™s hard to change bad habits, and what you can do about it&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice examination James.<br />
The ability to create fiction is just an amazing facet of the human brain &#8211; I&#8217;m a neuroscientist and I&#8217;m constantly fascinated by the ability of the mind to create entire worlds from nothing but past experience and a suspension of reality.<br />
This is also the trouble with some collaborations &#8211; the synthesis of fiction almost never happens in two people the same way. Still if you can channel the emotional attachment to your creations and the conflict with your collaborator into your work then it just might be the greatest thing ever.<br />
From a neuroscience perspective there&#8217;s a lot of biology behind <a href="http://veryevolved.com/2009/01/how-to-generate-an-emotional-response-from-your-audience/" rel="nofollow">generating an emotional response from your readers</a> which I&#8217;m continuing to explore at my site.</p>
<p>Patrick</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Very Evolved&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://veryevolved.com/2009/01/why-it%E2%80%99s-hard-to-change-bad-habits-and-what-you-can-do-about-it/" rel="nofollow">Why itâ€™s hard to change bad habits, and what you can do about it</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Karen Swim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Swim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, I have never collaborated but your points still hit home for me. Even if you do not collaborate with other writers, once your work is out there in the ether, your readers will have their own interpretation. I also imagine that the writer who has their book optioned for film has a whole new level of letting go to confront. The characters can go in ways you never intended and the actors selected may not even resemble what you created in your mind. I&#039;m not good enough to play the fiction game yet, but one day...

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Karen Swim&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/WordsForHire/~3/510976478/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blue Days&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I have never collaborated but your points still hit home for me. Even if you do not collaborate with other writers, once your work is out there in the ether, your readers will have their own interpretation. I also imagine that the writer who has their book optioned for film has a whole new level of letting go to confront. The characters can go in ways you never intended and the actors selected may not even resemble what you created in your mind. I&#8217;m not good enough to play the fiction game yet, but one day&#8230;</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Karen Swim&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/WordsForHire/~3/510976478/" rel="nofollow">Blue Days</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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