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  1. Grandad says:

    James – You’re shooting the wrong victim. According to your link ‘Marketing Artfully’, you’re aiming at ‘bookclubclassics.com’ again. Is it fair to be murdered twice?

    Grandad’s last blog post..Scribo, Ergo sum

  2. James says:

    Fixed, sorry about that. Blame Harry :D

  3. Grandad says:

    *sigh* Always blame the other guy…..

    Grandad’s last blog post..Scribo, Ergo sum

  4. James says:

    Why do you think I have him around?

  5. “Google reads top to bottom and left to right. ”

    What Google sees and what you see can be two different things entirely.

    I use a left side column, but if you look at the source of one of my pages, you’ll see that Google reads that last.

    http://training.seobook.com/ uses left side navigation; see http://www.seobook.com/left-or-right-rail-navigation for a discussion.

    This http://www.directoryone.com/articles/website-navigation.html says that usability and navigation are NOT affected by left vs. right.

    Pick up any newspaper or magazine: you’ll find plenty of left side columns for ads, sidebars.. if having them on the right was important for readers, they wouldn’t do that.

    Tony Lawrence’s last blog post..Page Views Per Visitor – more isn’t always better by Anthony Lawrence

  6. James says:

    @ Tony – Newspapers and magazines are not affected by either Google or screen reading and are read completely differently and perceived differently as well. While I respect your views, the general consensus across the Internet is that right is best, especially with blogs.

    Why? Because western readers read left to right, and what is on your left is the most important aspect. A blog is all about content – put your content first and foremost, period.

    As for Google, Google has a general pattern of crawling which I believe you’ll agree is left to right, top to bottom.

    Most Internet users do NOT have the savvy to start playing with coding and make their left sidebar source code appear last. While you may be familiar with this type of programming, I’m sure that well over three quarters of people don’t. The solution? Move the sidebar. Or hire a programmer.

    Usability and navigation *are* affected by left versus right. Sorry, but I’ll argue this one firmly until the cows go home.

  7. It was a bright and shiney morning when I got hit! The men with pens had done a drive by and Marketing Artfully was in their sights!

    After the bruising Jacobsen was heard to gasp…I WILL write better headlines! I WILL do a google sitemap, I am not sure I can get less inane in my writing style but I WILL work on it!

    I WILL break up my pages more and have more HEADLINES

    Thank you SO much for the information! I appreciate the time you took and will let you know if any of your suggestions are successful!

    PS – I am on my way to Montreal, Quebec – because of the Amungus I KNOW WHERE YOU ARE and I am coming for you….Jacobsen

  8. zania says:

    What also comes into the equation here is loading time.
    While the blog in question loads fairly easily, if those widgets had been placed in the left hand column, the blog would have taken ages to load on my slow broadband service and there are many potential readers (and possibly purchasers?) out there with slow connection speeds just like mine.
    Which is another reason why blogs with left hand side bars can be a pain in the butt.

    zania’s last blog post..Keep a Suspicious Mind When You Make Money Online

  9. James says:

    @ Tara – It was creepy as hell LOL. I thought, “Wow, cool!” And then I saw the flashing light pinpointing me like some military radar. Freaky. Hehehe.

    We really liked the white background and the simplicity you have going on, Tara. If you had a great banner, you really wouldn’t have to do much to make it a good, solid site.

    @ Zania – Really? I have no idea if left-sidebar widgets slow down loading. Could be. I’d have to research. I do know that sites with too many active widgets and ads or videos makes my super-dooper high-performance ‘net crawl like a man dying of thirst. Tara’s blog had none of those that I noticed, though. Hm.

  10. Grandad says:

    Web pages tend to load top to bottom, left to right, so a slow loading widget could block the site content until it is fully loaded.

    The general rule of thumb in site design is to have your most important content on the top left. This is where the eye will naturally go. On a commercial sites, the navigation is generally placed on the top or left, as it is crucial. However, in blogging, the latest post is generally what people want and it therefore should be top-left.

    There is also the issue of legacy screens, where the site may exceed screen width. A left sidebar could force a sideways scroll, which is one of the biggest sins in web design.

    Grandad’s last blog post..Friends

  11. “Most Internet users do NOT have the savvy to start playing with coding and make their left sidebar source code appear last”

    If you think that’s “beyond the capacity” of most people, perhaps so. It’s actually trivial, but most people are deathly afraid of learning anything about technology. Their loss.

    “Usability and navigation *are* affected by left versus right. Sorry, but I’ll argue this one firmly until the cows go home.”

    That’s conventional wisdom among many bloggers, but it’s incorrect according to the study I quoted.

    It’s a bit of a red herring to say that newspapers and magazines are read and perceived differently. We’re talking about the mechanics of reading and noticing – the media work identically in that respect.

    I can also tell you from years of A/B testing that a left sidebar increases both average views per visits AND ad income at my site. So no matter how many bloggers say “left is wrong”, I’ll keep mine where it is. Well, that’s not necessarily true: I do A/B testing every few years to make sure I’m still on track. So I’ll amend that: I’ll keep mine where it is unless real facts tell me to move it.

    And I’d strongly advise anyone else who is serious about their blog or website NOT to swallow “conventional wisdom” outright. Investigate, do A/B testing (Google Analytics now has some great tools that can show results very visually) and find out what REALLY works best for you. You might find that right works better, you might find the opposite, or you might find (as the studies I referenced indicate) it really doesn’t matter.

    Is it more important to you to go with the crowd or to do what works best? I know my answer.

    Tony Lawrence’s last blog post..Page Views Per Visitor – more isn’t always better by Anthony Lawrence

  12. “left-sidebar widgets slow down loading”

    Again, CSS lets you position the users view wherever you like while putting the actual load at the bottom of the page.

    And I need to revisit James contention that “Most Internet users do NOT have the savvy to start playing with coding and make their left sidebar source code appear last”

    Most bloggers don’t know ANYTHING about positioning – they rely on their blogging platform to do that. So are you saying that these blogging platforms are really so stupid as to not use CSS for positioning? The blog in question here uses Wordpress and the Navigation column we are discussing IS positioned with CSS and DOES load last. So THAT platform certainly isn’t stupid about columns, and I bet most are just as smart.

    Tony Lawrence’s last blog post..Page Views Per Visitor – more isn’t always better by Anthony Lawrence

  13. steph says:

    Hey guys,

    I just wanted to say I really enjoy these drive-by shootings! I find them professional, informative, valuable, and of course fun. I love the creativity. Your whole approach to this kind of advice is refreshing. It’s both forthright and firm yet not at all offensive. I also love that I’m indirectly learning what things I should implement for my own website when the time comes.

    steph’s last blog post..Fiction. Episode IV: Return of the Canadians

  14. @James: Whoa, hold on there, Baba-Looey…don’t be blaming me. I’ve been fixing your links every Sunday. Hmph, that’s what I get for being a nice guy…where’s Fukko? He’s slacking off again.

  15. @ James and Harry,

    Thank you for the ride-along. It was fun. Let me know if you ever need me to make another hit.

    @ Tara

    Thats why i removed my license plates. A little anonymity is good. Good luck with your site.

    @ Steph

    It’s all about the education.

    John Hewitt’s last blog post..Please Welcome My Guest Bloggers

  16. James and Harry,

    Now that you’ve whacked my wife (yes, I’m THAT Jacobsen), perhaps you could schedule a drive-by for my blog – http://blog.g33kart.com – would this be the first family hit in history? :)

    John “the widower” Jacobsen

    John Jacobsen’s last blog post..The Rays… are for REAL?!?!?

  17. James says:

    @ John – I didn’t touch your wife, I swear… lies. All lies!

    You’re up for June 29, and I’ll look forward to it.

 

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