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  1. Good to see the drive by shootings are alive and kicking.

    Thanks to Peter as well for taking the plunge and letting these two into your “home”.

    I see someone’s added a tweetmeme button. Let’s see if it works…

    Marc – WelshScribe´s last blog post…Why Keeping Busy Can Stall Your Freelance Career

  2. Ali Hale (@alihale) says:

    Great to see the drive-by shootings back – that really brightened up my lunchtime after a hard-working morning!

    As ever, I learn a heck of a lot about usability/design from reading your critques of other sites (the story always grips me, too. I’m ever concerned that James is about to blow himself up. Harry, watch out for him, won’tcha?)

    Just a thought … have you guys ever considered compiling all the drive-bys into a book? I’ve not read much in that area (though enjoyed “Don’t Make Me Think” a year or two ago), but I think you’ve got some great material for a series of usability/design case-studies, which could also be arranged to fit common themes/points (eg. I notice that navigation is a perennial issue, as are unwelcoming colours and unclear taglines/About pages). The story elements give it a great twist, too.

  3. Kelly says:

    James,

    Good hit. I’m guessing that Blackbaud is specialized enough that if you search for it at all, you’re halfway to understanding the forum before you even look around. Which I suspect is why Peter didn’t include much explanation, figuring if you have to ask it’s not for you, maybe.

    *But* it sounds like something that could be bringing in a lot more members, with some happy-people-pictures, something showing non-profits in action and benefitting from… whatever you learn here—and with a lot of your suggestions implemented. There’s plenty of potential in this Black Bus!

    As I hopped around: Some of the nav (top, tabs) did nothing. Home, Forum, and FAQ at least, all led to the same place. As I used the tabs in the top nav, the “Forum” tab stayed lit except when I tabbed to RSS, so I kept thinking I was on the same page even when a couple of pages did change.

    The nav below the banner changes—sometimes there sometimes not, as you mentioned, but also has different things in it on different pages. At one point I got “rules” and all that below-banner nav was gone, and when I used the back button I couldn’t even figure out what I’d clicked on to get there so I couldn’t do it again to test it!

    Some of the tabs above the banner and the navigation below the banner are repetitions, like the sidebar nav. Very confusing.

    Also way too much info is “below the fold”—has to be scrolled to see it—so that even on a few pages which were different, I thought they were the same thing until I investigated more.

    I couldn’t see any color changes as you described (I wonder why?), but that would have been very helpful.

    I sound a bit down on it but I’m really impressed with what a massive job putting a forum together must be. With clear architecture and lots of clues to help people get around smoothly, some great copy to draw folks in and type/colors that are easy on the eyes, it’ll be rolling along smoothly very soon. Good luck Peter!

    Regards,

    Kelly

  4. Kelly says:

    Ack!

    Didn’t realize I went on and on! :)

  5. @ Kelly – Oh, good comments. We don’t click around a great deal during drive-bys, as interior usability isn’t the main focus, but yeah, we had issues with navigation as well.

    And on and on is good! Means you care!

    @ Ali – We’re already working on that, because as you, we realized there are common themes that recur. With a quick ebook that basically tells people “what not to wear”, they’d be able to do more themselves to have a better site. We’re all about that.

    As for blowing myself up… um… well… there’s a reason Harry’s around. Yes.

    @ Marc – Peter was great, agreed! I’m sure he’ll be around today, as he was very interested in the feedback from readers and commentators, so don’t be shy!

  6. I totally forgot how much I enjoyed these. When I had my drive-by, it was the most helpful online advice I could’ve hoped for. Many of the suggestions I was able to implement immediately and some I had to shelve for later, but I never forgot a one.

    Playful and informative = terrific post.

    Writer Dad´s last blog post…The story garden

  7. Aw, I’ve missed these! Good to see you guys are still doing them.

  8. The meta tag thing really bugs me. It is supposed to be an automatic function of the vBulletin software but for some reason it isn’t working. I also have a tool called vBSEO handling some automatic SEO functions which is also supposed to be beefing that stuff up. I suspect the /forum/index.php will have better meta information in it.

    Marc – I know the site isn’t what it could be and I came here for fearless criticism. Let me have it.

    Kelly – Awesome notes – thanks! The site exists to serve people who work at non-profit organizations who use Blackbaud fundraising software. The software is best-in-class, but very expensive and most orgs only use 5-10% of what it can do. I started the site to try and help people work with each other to squeeze more life and value out of the software. We are not affiliated with Blackbaud at all. If you don’t know who Blackbaud is or what they do then the site isn’t for you. It’s a very niche market we serve.

    All your other observations are casualties of a couple platform changes over the last 3 years. The site is a hobby more than anything. I’ve never made a concerted effort until now to get all these things set up properly. The site has always been about the forum more than anything. I slapped a front page on with a derivative of the forum software as an afterthought. The site is getting enough traffic now that this needs to be revisited.

    I’m going to start to get the site functionality tweaked up (broken links, etc) first and then hopefully find some cash for a redesigned template for the vBulletin forum software.

    A question – If the site is primarily a forum is having a front page a help or a hindrance?

    Peter Gulka´s last blog post…Importing Recurring Gifts

  9. @Peter: Having run a few forums in our day we know they’re very niche oriented and the people that use them usually already know what’s going on before they get there. What we’ve done with our creative writing forum is we created a main page with at the very least a brief explanation as to what the forum is about and then a link to the forum itself in the main page navigation. James would have stats on whether it works or not, but from what I’ve seen, I believe it does help.

  10. Hey, I wish you’d drive by my hood and shoot up my site! I’m thinking of putting nonsense pseudo-pithiness on my welcome screen–stuff I can steal from the internet, like
    she sat there with her legs ajar…
    he fell ten stories and his body hit the pavement like a hefty bag full of vegetable soup…
    she grew on him like a colony of e. coli

    what do you think?

    On SEO–I think the whole SEO thing is hyped up. Google has giga-bucks and their smart engineers’ primary job is to relate content to search strings…content is it. Still, I do use all-in-one seo etc., just in case…

    I always learn something here. Thanks!

    Kaushik´s last blog post…Over on…

  11. Dear Men,

    Bloglines does not appear able to find you and ihelplessly displays only an exclamation point. If I click on your blog title, however, I am brought directly to your sight. Hence, the URL would seem correct.

    ::throws up hands::

    Mer, stalker friend of Amy’s

    Mer´s last blog post…In His Own Defense, Cheney Requests Classified Torture Memos That Appalled Others

  12. It’s a secret bus. If you know what it’s for you’re allowed on. I like the bus.

    Paul Morriss´s last blog post…Update on Sign Language project

  13. Having just started running a forum myself, I can tell you that

    http://www.vbulletin.org
    http://www.vbseo.com/f2/
    http://www.vbadvanced.com/forum/

    is a godsend (and that James’ advice is always spot-on!).

    To add a more descriptive title, go to your AdminCP and select:

    vBulletin Options -> General Setting

    You’ll see a spot to add your Meta Description. Mine is,
    Income Fitness – The Definitive Resource for being successful online -
    http://www.virtual-coach.com/forums/

    The folks at VBSEO, VBulletin.org and VBAdvanced are helpful beyond belief (vbulletin.com support is also quite good). Feel free to ask me any questions about fine-tuning it – will be happy to help out.

    It’s character-building indeed to run them,

    Barbara

    Barbara Ling, Virtual Coach´s last blog post…How can I tell if a Work at Home Business Opportunity is a scam?

  14. Dot (@dotfromdi) says:

    Another courageous soul braves the tell-the-truth-it-will-be-good-for-you honesty of the Men. As with Simon Cowell’s comments on American Idol, the truth is what helps most, but it isn’t always as palatable as a friendly nudge. I hope the blogger will survive the bombing. :-) And I’m relating to Harry a lot.

    As usual, this one was very entertaining. I got the “bus” when I saw the blog title and the initials were b-u-s, but I still didn’t know what Blackbaud was.

  15. Wow,
    What an incredible way to get the point across about design. i have never taken the time to really look at a site like that before. I’m going to visit mine right now like a first time visitor and see what I think.
    Thanks for the insight into design. It is like pornography, I know it when I see it but I can’t describe what it is.

    Andy with network marketing´s last blog post…MLM Network Marketing Success with Network Leads

  16. Hey everyone. It’s been a few months but the new Blackbus.org has been launched. I’ve been focusing on the functionality and backend over the last week and now its time to review the dive by and get some of the design elements and site basics implemented. I welcome everyone to pop by and have a look.

 

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