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  1. Timothy Andrew says:

    Good advice. I never really liked Harry Potter, but from what I heard from all my friends (inescapable, really), the magic was in the characters. (No pun intended)

  2. Brett Legree says:

    I agree with you on the point of characters not being “perfect”. Every book I’ve enjoyed, every movie, and the TV serials I’ve followed though the years – all have characters with very human limitations.

    Following them through their struggles to overcome adversity seems to build a sense of commonality with the character.

    As Timothy says above, with Harry Potter the magic is in the characters, and that’s what makes the stories so attractive to the target audience.

    People want to read about, and watch, interesting characters in dynamic situations.

    I guess that’s why there are no TV shows about nuclear engineers writing procedures… :)

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  3. Jamie says:

    When I think about it, I think great characters are what makes me a reading addict.

    I find myself scouring the shelves for the next sequel and reading through an author’s life work in a matter of a few days. Then I sit around moping because I miss the characters. I mean I actually go through withdrawal. Ahh, but then I find another great writer and a new set of characters to frolic with. :D

    One of my favorites is Janet Evanovich’s Stephanie Plum character, she’s always good for a great laugh!

  4. --Deb (@__Deb) says:

    Interesting that you should bring this up–over at my weekly reading meme, the question this week was about favorite heroines, and the answers have been fascinating . . . and it’s not the “perfect” characters that are being mentioned the most, either! Come see, if you like:
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  5. Nez says:

    If I have my comic book lore correct, this is the reason why Marvel Comics took over the industry beginning in the 1960s with the introductions of characters like Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, etc.

    For example, Spidey was a teenager who had problems with girls, a bully, a mean boss at work, and a widowed aunt (because of his inaction to stop a robber), etc.

    These were problems a lot of people face in real-life.

    And the Fantastic Four, even though more fantasy-ish than Spider-Man, still had relationship issues and such, PLUS, the characters wore no masks, had no secret identities.

    Still, you need good plot, good writing — as proved by the extreme success of the Spider-Man movies versus the okay Fantastic Four franchise.

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  6. Harry (@vegaspenman) says:

    @Nez: You’re right about the Marvel comics. Many of their characters were closer to “real” people than DC. People loved the flawed hero over the invincible character.

    It’s interesting to watch the evolution over the last few decades. We’ve gone from hero to anti-hero. You have guys like the Punisher, who would look like a crazed killer to the outside world, but to those of us who know his reasons for revenge, we can’t help but sympathize with him and cheer for him at the end. Compare that to the Dudley Do-Rights of the early years of comics and you’ll see what I mean.

  7. Brett Legree says:

    @ Harry – you can see the same thing with the Anakin Skywalker / Darth Vader through the Star Wars series.

    The rise, fall, and final redemption of a deeply flawed and very human character.

    (I always identified with Darth Vader, I thought Luke was a bit of a weenie…)

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  8. Harry (@vegaspenman) says:

    @Brett: Luke was a weenie. I think he got that from Anikin. Before he became Darth Vader, he was a whiny little bastard too.

    Han Solo rules – he did shoot Greedo first, after all.

    < rant>Lucas should stop tweaking the films, if you ask me. Oh, and another thing, George Lucas should NEVER, EVER be allowed to write romantic scenes. His scenes between Anikin and Padme were some of the worst I’ve seen.

    I’m done now. Thank you for listening.

  9. Brett Legree says:

    @ Harry – you better believe Han Solo rules, and he totally shot first. I think there’s a special place in the underworld for Lucas, for changing that… :)

    (Don’t worry, you’re preaching to the faithful here on this one…)

    Ah yes, Lord Vader. I could surely use that “force choke” in Monday morning meetings. ;)

    Brett Legree’s last blog post..inertia. momentum. focus. change.

  10. Terry Finley says:

    The story is the character.
    The character is the story.

  11. Characters are definitely what makes any story great. That’s exactly why Harry Potter was such a success. Harry, Ron, and Hermione each represent basic human personality struggles – Harry trying to find courage and always willing to break the rules for the greater good, Ron’s awkwardness and humor, and Hermione’s sheer wit. Something for everyone!

    Yep, Luke is kind of a wuss. Han Solo is the man. I think the most intriguing Star Wars character is Yoda, and the supporting characters like the droids and of course Chewy, lend a great deal more to the story than they are given credit for. The love scenes in the later films (episodes 1-3) were cheesy, but remember the interactions between Han and Leia in the earlier movies? Lucas knew how to build romantic tension, and you had the added curiosity of Luke’s interest in the princess.

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  12. Brett Legree says:

    I have a confession: I always felt sorry for the Terminator in “The Terminator” (the first one, not T2 – weird, I know – or should that be ‘wierd’…)

    :)

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  13. James says:

    “Good relations with the Wookiees, I have.”

  14. Laura says:

    Great read, as usual!

    @Harry and Brett: Yes, what ain’t (yes, ain’t is a word..teehee) broke, don’t fix, right? I have to agree the love scenes were not only cheesy, but the dialog was rather horrific. Reminded me of some rather nasty B movies. :)

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  15. Harry (@vegaspenman) says:

    You know, I was watching The Empire Strikes Back earlier and I realized another reason why those scenes didn’t work. I think that Natalie Portman and Hayden Christenson weren’t mature enough to carry it off. They lacked the chemistry and earthiness of Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher.

    The newer Star Wars movies could have worked just as easily without those scenes. I find that when I fast forward over them, the movie’s much better.

    Yeah, Lucas definitely lost something when he introduced Ewoks, Jar Jar Binks, and those deplorable love scenes.

  16. Brett Legree says:

    Harry, I think you are right on that point – more experienced actors such as Ford & Fisher could have carried those scenes.

    (George Lucas – if you are reading this, *do not* release another “Special Edition” of Episodes I to III with digitally inserted actors… please… let’s just leave it be…)

    Just laughing to myself here – my oldest son (6-1/2) thought the first three (Eps. I to III) were cheesy… but he liked IV to VI.

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  17. @Harry – aw, c’mon – you have to enjoy the romantic dialogue between Anakin and Padme: “I wish that I could WISH these feelings away!”

    The main problem with the Star Wars series was that Lucas let fame go to his head. In IV-VI, he had some talented people do massive edits. No one was willing to give “A New Hope” a chance, because his script was terrible. Once he saw the success (and attributed it to himself), he didn’t let anyone touch I-III. SHAME ON YOU GEORGE LUCAS!

    You know, I thought that Luke started out as a weenie, but I think he showed a lot of range as a character. His wuss-iness made him believable (c’mon, I know that all you guys wanted to go to the Tatchi Station to pick up some power-converters when you were 18 ;) ). I thought that it was interesting how he had to reconcile a heart full of hate, in order to learn to love a father he never had. I think he realized that he was a big idiot (especially with the whole hand loss fandango), which to me shows character growth. Just my humble opinion :-D

    I think that the way we can dissect these Star Wars characters proves that the characters *do* run the story. So, yeah – great article!

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  18. Great advice James. The characters certainly do make the story. I don’t know if you saw that Steven King film on TV – the one with the evil hotel room? If he’d not focused on the character and the story of his daughter dying etc – the story wouldn’t have been nearly as good would it.

    The thing I struggle with most is putting the character in a difficult or dangerous situation. It’s like I try to protect them like a child and I don’t really want any harm to come to them. What advice would you give to overcome that?

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  19. Harry (@vegaspenman) says:

    @Catherine: Just do it. In an upcoming installation of this series I’ll be talking about what makes people care for your characters, and taking risks is part of that. James and I are notorious for putting our characters through the ringer – and the more we love them, the more we challenge them. What’s the worst that can happen except getting a kick ass scene?

    Besides, your characters are a lot tougher than you might think.

  20. James says:

    @ Catherine – Just do it. Take a deep breath and know that both you and your character will be exploring to learn more – and come out a better person. It’s amazing what you can accomplish, both in a novel and personally, when you bite the bullet…

    …no matter how much it hurts.

  21. Harry (@vegaspenman) says:

    @James: You owe me a Coke. It’s scary the way we think so much alike at times.

  22. James says:

    That was scary. Didn’t even noticed you’d posted because I was so determined to get it out. *passes Coke*

  23. Terry Finley says:

    Wouldn’t it be nice if creating characters
    was as easy as judging them.

  24. Harry (@vegaspenman) says:

    @Terry: It is easy…for me anyway. Never had a problem with it.

  25. Thanks both of you – I’ll bite the bullet. I suppose the hero survives to the end no matter what.

    Mmm – I wonder how many steps you can fall down and still survive? Or maybe a knife wound would be better?

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  26. Maggi says:

    So fun to run across a Gabaldon fan out of the blue. I will read anything and everything, but rarely reread. I’ve read Outlander at least seven times–I’ve finally lost count–not to mention the others in the series. I was not familiar with Donati until recently and have her on my “to read” list. Gabaldon’s characters and stories are deep, complex studies in honor and commitment, among other things–in addition to being voraciously alive. Every time I restart Outlander, I say THIS time I’m going to pay attentiont to HOW she does what she does, but after a few chapters I’m swept along again.

  27. Izkata says:

    Ahh…. You’ve reminded me of when the Animorphs book series was completed. I cried for a full day.

 

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