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  1. That last point, people who think guest posting is a waste of time because it’s not income-earning, these guys always get on my nerves.

    Uh, last time I checked, marketing was an expense, no? You don’t make money from deploying a marketing campaign—you make it from the expected returns. Guest posting is a form of marketing. I think it’s one of the best kinds because it should inherently provide value and be good, solid content, whereas most traditional marketing is just a sales pitch.

    Guest posting isn’t free content; it’s a marketing expense, an affordable one because usually all it involves is some of your time. Money is not the only currency in the world. ;)

    Good post mate. Enjoying the series.

    Joel Falconer’s last blog post..How to Double Your Income with the Art of Delegation

  2. I have read every post in the series and learned a lot.
    There’s one question that I would like a answer on.
    Suppose you send a guest post and get no reply :-0)
    * How long should one wait before sending a follow up mail asking about it?
    * should one just assume that its not something that will be published and not send a mail?

    Shamelle

  3. Kelly says:

    James,

    “it also shares the potential with section with a big stick”

    Sows how little caffeine I’ve had that I continued to hope that would make sense if I reread it. 3 times.

    On stirring the pot: When people hate your post you have a golden opportunity to shine in those comments. I’ve seen people both give up and get down in there and hash it out. I guarantee the hash-it-out folks are far better remembered (and get tons more click-through) than the ones who walk away.

    If you (not you specifically, James) don’t like debate why blog? Just to preach to adoring masses? *yawn* Note: I don’t mean argument or enflaming a jerk, but real debate—explaining your own point of view more fully to attempt to sway others.

    If you have a point of view that riles some people and you can’t defend it like a gentleman/ gentlewoman for 24 hours, I for one won’t become a fan.

    Nicely written!

    Regards,

    Kelly

    Kelly’s last blog post..Summer Is a Great Time to… Read at the Beach: 10 to Fire You Up

  4. James says:

    @ Shamelle – Those questions were covered here in this post: Stacking the Odds in Your Favor Cheers!

    @ Joel – Damned straight.

  5. James says:

    @ Kelly – This is clear proof why even the best writers need an editor. Not that I wrote that drivel – it’s a copy/paste error. Thanks for picking it up.

    What makes me laugh every time is that you pick it up – but how many don’t? Heh.

  6. Kelly says:

    My dear, I am an awesome editor. Being an observant stickler is what I do for a living. (I suspected the vicious copy/paste monster—or shiraz at midnight.)

    Kelly’s last blog post..Summer Is a Great Time to… Read at the Beach: 10 to Fire You Up

  7. Q. – What if the blogger makes an embarrassing spelling error, when adding the headline to my guest post, and is subsequently unwilling to correct the mistake?
    A. – Voodoo dolls are for sale in the lobby…

    rjleaman’s last blog post..7 Ways to Optimize To-Do Lists

  8. Sal says:

    James,

    Fantastic series. I am learning a ton, and from who else but the master of guest posting. I have a couple of questions as well. First, how do you decide what topic you are going to send in for a guest post to a certain blog? Secondly, do you read the current posts and then say “you know, this could use something more, let me send in some content?”

    I think that is it for now, but I will be back with more questions in the chamber…gotta give it time to digest first. Keep up the great work!

  9. James says:

    @ Kelly – Yes. I blame the Shiraz, too.

    @ RJ – Kelly already has a voodoo doll for us. Thankfully, she hasn’t been using it lately…

    @ Sal – Hey, thanks for the kind words (and the flattery; gotta love that!) Good questions, too.

    My thoughts are that most blog owners enjoy seeing initiative. They don’t like to think much and they like to see a blogger use his or her creativity.

    When I receive a request for a guest post, though, I always ask the individual whether they’d like me to write on something specific or whether they’d like me to choose my own topic.

    Many people use me to say things they normally could not, and others have great ideas they’d like to see me explore because of who I am and how I write. Others appreciate that I cared enough to ask and offer them that opportunity and they also appreciate that I show that I do have enough creativity to think up my own topics.

    It’s important to choose a related topic for the blog. I wouldn’t write on entrepreneurship at a blog about print publishing, for example, unless I had a really good tie in or angle.

    What do readers like to see on blogs? Which posts have received the most comments in the past? Which seem the most popular? Check that and use that advantage to give readers exactly what they want.

    Alternatively, answer questions you’ve noticed in comment sections that didn’t get addressed in blog posts.

    I try to avoid writing on something someone has already covered – unless I can continue the lessons and advice by adding to it, not just by being more creative. And I also respect the post I took my idea from by linking to it in the post. “She wrote this. Great stuff. Now read this, which gives you even more tips.”

    That help?

  10. Sal says:

    James, that helped out a ton. Cleared a bunch of roaming, nomadic thoughts right up. Thanks for the insight.

  11. Bill K. says:

    Shiraz, you say? Yet another Australian influence on blogging.

    This post really covers some good ground and resonates with me as a reader in terms of my reaction to guest bloggers. How they handle the comments section is a biggie. If someone responds well to comments, including the negative ones, that’s usually enough to persuade me to click over to his or her blog and check it out.

    Bill K.’s last blog post..How to make functional maps using Google Earth

  12. John Hoff says:

    James, after submitting a guest post, what kinds of requests do blog owners come at you with? Do they ask you to reformat your paragraphs? Do they edit the format of the post? Who finds the pictures to use? Do owners tell you when your blog article will go live?

    Thanks, dude!

    John Hoff’s last blog post..2 Keys To Beating Your Competition In Business

  13. Writer Dad says:

    I have a guest post coming out either next week or the week after. All the posts on my own blog during that week will relate to that one. My guest post is the daddy, even though it’s not on my own blog. It doesn’t matter to me that it’s free content at all; I’m just excited that I have an opportunity, beyond the one that I created, to get my words out there.

    Writer Dad’s last blog post..One World, One Dream

  14. John Hoff says:

    @ James – I noticed you had mentioned you’ve guest posted on Lifehacker. I must admit, I’m a bit confused on how Lifehacker works. Do they only post snippets of other people’s post? Do they accept guest posts? What’s the deal?

    Geez, I’m full of questions this morning, aren’t I?

  15. John Hoff says:

    Sorry for another comment, but I thought you might like to know that for the last two comments I made, after I hit the submit button I’m taken to an error page. Looks like maybe CommentLuv is causing some problems or something in your comments.php file.

    John Hoff’s last blog post..2 Keys To Beating Your Competition In Business

  16. Kelly says:

    James,

    Been sticking the pins in all week. How do you think the typo got there? Hard to concentrate when little Pen is writhing.

    Later,

    Kelly

    Kelly’s last blog post..Summer Is a Great Time to… Read at the Beach: 10 to Fire You Up

  17. Oops! Did I miss some kind of a James-Kelly affray, and inadvertantly put my foot in it with that wee gripe about a certain typo-creating host blogger? No reference to any person here at MwP, living or dead, blogger or commenter, was intended or implied… I assure you…

    rjleaman’s last blog post..7 Ways to Optimize To-Do Lists

  18. James says:

    @ Kelly – No wonder I’ve been feeling those jabs in my leg… cripes.

    @ John – Comment Luv is a bit of a bitch. She’ll come around. Or Harry will wake up, one of the two :) I’m not the man with the coding skills around here.

    As for Lifehacker, nope, never said I wrote for them. I have no clue how they work. Sorry, dude.

    @ Writer Dad – Ha, now there’s an interesting concept – a central guest post elsewhere and a surrounding web of posts on your own blog. I like!

    @ John again –

    James, after submitting a guest post, what kinds of requests do blog owners come at you with? Do they ask you to reformat your paragraphs? Do they edit the format of the post? Who finds the pictures to use? Do owners tell you when your blog article will go live?

    Me? Personally? After I submit, there’s rarely anything that comes back. Posts generally go live straight as they are.

    But I can answer your question in a general way:

    Blog owners will reformat posts if guest posters don’t submit posts using HTML code versus Word features. It’s a bitch to edit out the Word code and rework the code to match the formatting.

    Editing of the content is their right as well – but if you need an editor that badly, you shouldn’t be guest posting. This is your best work, after all.

    Same with paragraphing – you should be applying proper breaking. I did notice that most blogs don’t reformat this and end up posting huge chunks of text. Sucks to read.

    Pictures are often at the discretion of the blog owner. They have their own means of finding and posting pictures, but going the extra mile to say, “Hey, I found this pic that would be a good match” and including the link saves them extra time and provides an additional service.

    @ Bill – Shiraz, I say. Every day between 4 and 6pm. It’s the small pleasures in life that make it all worth it.

  19. James says:

    @ RJ/Kelly – SEE? *points and jumps up and down* It’s HER fault too!! She admitted it!

    (Sadly, no, RJ. You can’t take credit for this typo. Sorry.)

  20. Heh. What’s the point in being both female and Canadian, if one can’t apologize endlessly for things not actually one’s fault? (The Crimean War, for example: I’ve always felt bad about that one.)

    rjleaman’s last blog post..7 Ways to Optimize To-Do Lists

  21. @Kelly – Thanks for the encouragement to stir the pot. Very necessary.

    @James – What if you know you are a wolf in sheep’s clothing, but that the sheep will attack you as soon as you show your face?

    What I mean is, what if you deliberately want to guest post in a way that is counter to the core beliefs of the blog audience (and its author) you want to target? (and not just for the heck of it, because you strongly believe those beliefs are mistaken)

    Do you acknowledge it upfront, making such an analogy, or do you just try to slip it in, under the radar?

    Jeremy | Happily Ever After Investing’s last blog post..The Cat’s Guide To Bottom Fishing

  22. James says:

    @ Jeremy – Good question, and I’m glad you ask.

    In this case, I’d do the graceful, mature thing and simply not guest post. “Thank you for the offer, but I feel I wouldn’t be able to properly support the beliefs of your blog.”

    End of story. Why try to be sneaky or subtle? Why try to publicly knock someone down? Take the high road, dude, and just don’t do it. Live and let live.

    Because if you are guest posting just to counter the core beliefs of a blog, that’s just nasty. :)

  23. Good series. There really is a lot to consider with guest posting.

    Guest posting is also perhaps the most proactive thing a blogger can do to increase exposure and subscribers, short of writing worthwhile content on their own pages. But that’s a given.

    Bamboo Forest’s last blog post..What’s The True Value of Blog Comments?

  24. Great post about gest posting. Thank you

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  25. James, just thought I’d let you know that Blogger has stepped up its game regarding comments.

    Check out my new comment section on my sports blog, which I have not switched to WordPress.

    What you think?

    Phillip Hines’s last blog post..Your Votes Are In: Hampton Roads Baseball Beats Out Football By Three Votes

  26. My head hurts. It all seemed so simple for the one guest post I’ve done so far. You have written an excellent series, but my head hurts.

    Urban Panther’s last blog post..Yep, tastes good

  27. @ Urban – I’m sorry. *pat pat* I know Harry sympathizes and knows exactly how you feel.

    @ Philip – Yeah, that is much better. Damn. They could be more clear with their title tags, but it makes commenting much better. Thanks for pointing that out to me, as it might – might, mind you – make me like Blogger a wee bit more ;)

    James Chartrand – Men with Pens’s last blog post..Guest Posting: After You Get the Yes

  28. Dang, I saw rjleaman’s post about an affray between Kelly & James, and thought they were having an affair.

    Now *that* would be some good gossip.

    Sonia Simone’s last blog post..Relationship Marketing Series #6, Connect With One Person

  29. Kelly says:

    Rather daunting logistics…

    & why would rjleaman know about it, lol?

    How come there aren’t any good bloggers-having-affairs stories?

    Kelly’s last blog post..Summer Is a Great Time to… Read at the Beach: 10 to Fire You Up

  30. rjleaman knows all kinds of things, you know.

    There really should be better blogger gossip. I’d make up something filthy, but I’m too tired. (Maybe that’s the problem, most of us are too damned worn out to have affairs.)

    Sonia Simone’s last blog post..Relationship Marketing Series #6, Connect With One Person

  31. @Sonia, tsk! Mind in the gutter again? Sounds like you can’t be that tired! Or was it the provocative subtitle of this post that got this train of thought puffing off in the wrong direction?

    @Kelly, your secrets are safe with me ;)

    rjleaman’s last blog post..7 Ways to Optimize To-Do Lists

  32. Late to the party, but damn fine material!

    @Jeremy – When you’re guest-posting with an opposing view, my opinion is that you should be open and respectful about it. If you want to be a troll and piss people off, that will not score points for you. But you could at least do your best to be likable and earn respect, and that is best done by liking others and being respectful.

    I doubt anyone is clever enough to truly pull off a “wolf-in-sheep’s-clothing” maneuver without at least being detected and definitely hated. And what purpose would that serve? None that I can see.

    Michael Martine’s last blog post..How to Avoid Falling into a Blogging Rut

  33. Can you imagine the marketing potential? I mean…

    Think about it. I could promote being fantastic in bed. And create gossip for Sonia… give RJ secrets.. .make Kelly blush…

    James Chartrand – Men with Pens’s last blog post..Guest Posting: After You Get the Yes

  34. … gratify the male ego…

    rjleaman’s last blog post..7 Ways to Optimize To-Do Lists

  35. Kelly says:

    Only if I can mention that you don’t like to do it in the dark.

    A girl’s got to have her priorities.

    Kelly’s last blog post..Summer Is a Great Time to… Read at the Beach: 10 to Fire You Up

  36. Nicole Price says:

    Writer Dad’s approach is very exciting. Let me try that out and see what happens.

    Nicole Price’s last blog post..Best Companies to Work for

  37. James says:

    @ Kelly – Hey. I’m fantastic in bed. I *want* the lights on so everyone can see. Like RJ said, ego and all. ;)

    @ Nicole – Yeah, I’m actually going to test that one out myself. It’s a brilliant idea. Maybe he’ll give us an update.

  38. Kelly says:

    James,

    Hehehe.

    & who doesn’t?

    When l’affaire becomes public, darling, we’ll see if you can take this theory from advertising to a testimonial. Word-of-mouth is everything, you know.

    Later,

    Kelly

    Kelly’s last blog post..Summer Is a Great Time to… Read at the Beach: 10 to Fire You Up

  39. rjleaman (@rjleaman) says:

    James, um, re: my passing remark on ‘male ego,’ you may blame Freud for tainting yet another perfectly good Latin word.

    Writer Dad’s hen-and-chicks approach is brilliant & logical — new readers coming over from the guest post are guaranteed to find content that will appeal. Clever, so clever! Betcha, soon, all the kids will be doing it.

 

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