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		<title>By: Daria Werbowy Pic</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/take-the-heat-or-get-out-of-the-kitchen/#comment-1524</link>
		<dc:creator>Daria Werbowy Pic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Daria Werbowy Pic...&lt;/strong&gt;

I Googled for something completely different, but found your page...and have to say thanks. nice read....</description>
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<p>I Googled for something completely different, but found your page&#8230;and have to say thanks. nice read&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Do you own a business or a job? at The Shane &#38; Peter Inc. Blog</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/take-the-heat-or-get-out-of-the-kitchen/#comment-1523</link>
		<dc:creator>Do you own a business or a job? at The Shane &#38; Peter Inc. Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is a guest post from our friend, James. His blog was just awarded #4 in the 2007 top ten blog for writers contest. He and his business partner Harry run a company of more than 30 writers pumping out PLR articles. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is a guest post from our friend, James. His blog was just awarded #4 in the 2007 top ten blog for writers contest. He and his business partner Harry run a company of more than 30 writers pumping out PLR articles. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/take-the-heat-or-get-out-of-the-kitchen/#comment-1513</link>
		<dc:creator>Courtney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh. My. God. I just wrote the owner of Wahm.com a note and reported that post. As if I wasn&#039;t ready to wash my hands of that group. Sheesh.

Melissa, if I had been in your position, I would have reported the thread too. You have nothing to be a ashamed about in the least bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. My. God. I just wrote the owner of Wahm.com a note and reported that post. As if I wasn&#8217;t ready to wash my hands of that group. Sheesh.</p>
<p>Melissa, if I had been in your position, I would have reported the thread too. You have nothing to be a ashamed about in the least bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa M.</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/take-the-heat-or-get-out-of-the-kitchen/#comment-1517</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think in retrospect my response was immature as well. I did call names and perhaps shouldn&#039;t have done that. I apologize again. Kimberly is right, I can&#039;t call people high school and call names myself.

Want a really great laugh? The WAHMS made up a fake post from me here:

http://www.wahm.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=489551

I&#039;m not going to respond as I think it&#039;s just silly, but the Meissa Mc post is not me. I&#039;m done with this. Thanks James. I&#039;ll still come back and comment on your blog but it will be about writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think in retrospect my response was immature as well. I did call names and perhaps shouldn&#8217;t have done that. I apologize again. Kimberly is right, I can&#8217;t call people high school and call names myself.</p>
<p>Want a really great laugh? The WAHMS made up a fake post from me here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wahm.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=489551" rel="nofollow">http://www.wahm.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=489551</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to respond as I think it&#8217;s just silly, but the Meissa Mc post is not me. I&#8217;m done with this. Thanks James. I&#8217;ll still come back and comment on your blog but it will be about writing.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/take-the-heat-or-get-out-of-the-kitchen/#comment-1516</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a solution:  Everyone who commented in this thread that doesn&#039;t already have a warning has now been warned.

I&#039;m going back to work now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a solution:  Everyone who commented in this thread that doesn&#8217;t already have a warning has now been warned.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going back to work now.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/take-the-heat-or-get-out-of-the-kitchen/#comment-1515</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Kimberly - No, we&#039;re not being selective. Prior to this fiasco of a molehill turned mountain and set on fire to blaze through the night, we had no commenting policy at all and everything ran smoothly.

By the time commentators started ripping into each other, we were sitting here blinking at the monitors thinking, &quot;Oh crap. Now what do we do?&quot;

When we felt the situation was getting out of hand, we tried to handle it as best possible. We were exhausted and tired and fed up. We decided on some social rules and implemented them for the situation at the current moment.

Backtracking in time wasn&#039;t being selective - it just didn&#039;t seem logical - do you punish a person for something they did six months ago? Or do you deal with the here and now and move forward?

I&#039;m not going to read back over the comments to pick apart everything, analyze and examine them.

Note there is a difference between saying, &quot;This is childish,&quot; and saying, &quot;You are a bad reader.&quot; There is also a difference between attacking a person&#039;s behavior and attacking the person. I don&#039;t like &quot;you&quot; statements. I prefer &quot;I think statements&quot; all the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kimberly &#8211; No, we&#8217;re not being selective. Prior to this fiasco of a molehill turned mountain and set on fire to blaze through the night, we had no commenting policy at all and everything ran smoothly.</p>
<p>By the time commentators started ripping into each other, we were sitting here blinking at the monitors thinking, &#8220;Oh crap. Now what do we do?&#8221;</p>
<p>When we felt the situation was getting out of hand, we tried to handle it as best possible. We were exhausted and tired and fed up. We decided on some social rules and implemented them for the situation at the current moment.</p>
<p>Backtracking in time wasn&#8217;t being selective &#8211; it just didn&#8217;t seem logical &#8211; do you punish a person for something they did six months ago? Or do you deal with the here and now and move forward?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to read back over the comments to pick apart everything, analyze and examine them.</p>
<p>Note there is a difference between saying, &#8220;This is childish,&#8221; and saying, &#8220;You are a bad reader.&#8221; There is also a difference between attacking a person&#8217;s behavior and attacking the person. I don&#8217;t like &#8220;you&#8221; statements. I prefer &#8220;I think statements&#8221; all the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the two places where this post turned (if anyone is still following, I came over from IB):

&quot;From my POV, just shutting down a topic with no warning is a little childish.&quot;

and then also here:

&quot;I think you have a right to know theyâ€™re talking about you at WAHM which is why everyone is coming out of the woodwork to attack you.&quot;

Prior to that, it was a great, interesting discussion and very informative! Thanks!


PS_ @blog owner. I&#039;m noticing you&#039;re being a little selective at whom you&#039;re telling to play nice. If I&#039;m reading correctly, a &quot;Melissa MCann&quot; started the namecalling with words like &quot;snotty&quot; and &quot;nastiness&quot; days ago. No warnings there. Is it cause she&#039;s a supporter? Interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the two places where this post turned (if anyone is still following, I came over from IB):</p>
<p>&#8220;From my POV, just shutting down a topic with no warning is a little childish.&#8221;</p>
<p>and then also here:</p>
<p>&#8220;I think you have a right to know theyâ€™re talking about you at WAHM which is why everyone is coming out of the woodwork to attack you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Prior to that, it was a great, interesting discussion and very informative! Thanks!</p>
<p>PS_ @blog owner. I&#8217;m noticing you&#8217;re being a little selective at whom you&#8217;re telling to play nice. If I&#8217;m reading correctly, a &#8220;Melissa MCann&#8221; started the namecalling with words like &#8220;snotty&#8221; and &#8220;nastiness&#8221; days ago. No warnings there. Is it cause she&#8217;s a supporter? Interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/take-the-heat-or-get-out-of-the-kitchen/#comment-1522</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting takes at Itty Biz:
http://ittybiz.com/moral-of-the-story-psycho-blogger-edition-with-bonus/#comment-590

LOL at &quot;you&#039;re all adults here people: from the person that was the catalyst here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting takes at Itty Biz:<br />
<a href="http://ittybiz.com/moral-of-the-story-psycho-blogger-edition-with-bonus/#comment-590" rel="nofollow">http://ittybiz.com/moral-of-the-story-psycho-blogger-edition-with-bonus/#comment-590</a></p>
<p>LOL at &#8220;you&#8217;re all adults here people: from the person that was the catalyst here.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/take-the-heat-or-get-out-of-the-kitchen/#comment-1521</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t apologize. You did the right thing. That&#039;s what&#039;s important, even though the results of sharing that &quot;right thing&quot; might make a mess.

Plenty of good things came from this. I learned a few things (probably not the lessons many people wanted me to learn, either!), I made some new friends, I&#039;ve gained a few readers, and I&#039;ve found support where I least expected it.

I&#039;ve been really surprised at the whole effect of the situation. It&#039;s been an experience for sure, and all experiences are good for learning - not an experience I&#039;d like to repeat, mind you, but hey.

I appreciated knowing what was going on. In Quebec, where I&#039;m from, people are very, very direct, straightforward and blunt. If you have a problem, you take it up with the person. No one else gets involved. We all believe every person can take care of themselves and that&#039;s how things work.

Basically, you acted like a Quebecois. :) It&#039;s a good thing. No apologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t apologize. You did the right thing. That&#8217;s what&#8217;s important, even though the results of sharing that &#8220;right thing&#8221; might make a mess.</p>
<p>Plenty of good things came from this. I learned a few things (probably not the lessons many people wanted me to learn, either!), I made some new friends, I&#8217;ve gained a few readers, and I&#8217;ve found support where I least expected it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been really surprised at the whole effect of the situation. It&#8217;s been an experience for sure, and all experiences are good for learning &#8211; not an experience I&#8217;d like to repeat, mind you, but hey.</p>
<p>I appreciated knowing what was going on. In Quebec, where I&#8217;m from, people are very, very direct, straightforward and blunt. If you have a problem, you take it up with the person. No one else gets involved. We all believe every person can take care of themselves and that&#8217;s how things work.</p>
<p>Basically, you acted like a Quebecois. <img src='http://cdn.menwithpens.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  It&#8217;s a good thing. No apologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/take-the-heat-or-get-out-of-the-kitchen/#comment-1520</link>
		<dc:creator>Courtney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is getting ridiculous. If you think you&#039;re helping the situation, or &quot;defending me&quot; in any way....please don&#039;t. I don&#039;t need defense. And James definitely doesn&#039;t deserve to be berated. James and I have made peace...please just move on and get some writing work done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is getting ridiculous. If you think you&#8217;re helping the situation, or &#8220;defending me&#8221; in any way&#8230;.please don&#8217;t. I don&#8217;t need defense. And James definitely doesn&#8217;t deserve to be berated. James and I have made peace&#8230;please just move on and get some writing work done.</p>
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