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		<title>By: Nicolas De Corte</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/the-ultimate-men-with-pens-guide-to-twitter/comment-page-1#comment-27633</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicolas De Corte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These days I don&#039;t think you can get around social media, both Twitter and other networks like Facebook or LinkedIn. Especially if you like to stay a bit up to date of what everyone is doing.

If I need to know where the party is this weekend: Facebook
If I want to see pictures of my friend&#039;s wedding: Facebook
If I&#039;m looking for a new job opportunity: LinkedIn
If I want to know how my friend&#039;s doing on holiday: Twitter

As long as you&#039;re not building your whole life around these networks, I think they are an improvement of your social personal and business life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These days I don&#8217;t think you can get around social media, both Twitter and other networks like Facebook or LinkedIn. Especially if you like to stay a bit up to date of what everyone is doing.</p>
<p>If I need to know where the party is this weekend: Facebook<br />
If I want to see pictures of my friend&#8217;s wedding: Facebook<br />
If I&#8217;m looking for a new job opportunity: LinkedIn<br />
If I want to know how my friend&#8217;s doing on holiday: Twitter</p>
<p>As long as you&#8217;re not building your whole life around these networks, I think they are an improvement of your social personal and business life.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/the-ultimate-men-with-pens-guide-to-twitter/comment-page-1#comment-27363</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was very much a sceptic of social media and Twitter too..

@Wil.. what is sceptic?

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Peter&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slotking.co.uk/online-slots-tournament-win-144k/&quot;&gt;Online Slots Tournament - Share In $144k&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was very much a sceptic of social media and Twitter too..</p>
<p>@Wil.. what is sceptic?</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Peter&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://www.slotking.co.uk/online-slots-tournament-win-144k/">Online Slots Tournament &#8211; Share In $144k</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Anil Patel</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/the-ultimate-men-with-pens-guide-to-twitter/comment-page-1#comment-27059</link>
		<dc:creator>Anil Patel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ James - I like your thinking. By glorious, I assume you mean genuinely valuable? But does any site have a glorious purpose? What defines a valuable website? One that lets you pay your bills or one that lets you stay in touch with friends? This is what the facebook / Twitter debate comes down to - just how valuable are these websites to daily life. Value is personal and unique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ James &#8211; I like your thinking. By glorious, I assume you mean genuinely valuable? But does any site have a glorious purpose? What defines a valuable website? One that lets you pay your bills or one that lets you stay in touch with friends? This is what the facebook / Twitter debate comes down to &#8211; just how valuable are these websites to daily life. Value is personal and unique.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilfried</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/the-ultimate-men-with-pens-guide-to-twitter/comment-page-1#comment-27057</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilfried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was very much a sceptic of social media and Twitter too</description>
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		<title>By: Wizely</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/the-ultimate-men-with-pens-guide-to-twitter/comment-page-1#comment-25821</link>
		<dc:creator>Wizely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great article! I was very much a sceptic of social media and Twitter too but have just started using it. The best thing for me is finding all sorts of new blogs (like this one) and snippets from around the web that people share. It&#039;s great for those of us who can&#039;t spend every waking minute surfing the net!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Wizely&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://escapingthewordcage.com/copywriting-web-design/website-designer-architect.html&quot;&gt;Website designer/ architect or painter/ decorator?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great article! I was very much a sceptic of social media and Twitter too but have just started using it. The best thing for me is finding all sorts of new blogs (like this one) and snippets from around the web that people share. It&#8217;s great for those of us who can&#8217;t spend every waking minute surfing the net!</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Wizely&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://escapingthewordcage.com/copywriting-web-design/website-designer-architect.html">Website designer/ architect or painter/ decorator?</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Twitter, Facebook or Both?</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/the-ultimate-men-with-pens-guide-to-twitter/comment-page-1#comment-25415</link>
		<dc:creator>Twitter, Facebook or Both?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from someone who wasn&#8217;t so sure about twitter at first? Â You can find that one here at the Mens with Pens Blog. Â I highly recommend [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from someone who wasn&#8217;t so sure about twitter at first? Â You can find that one here at the Mens with Pens Blog. Â I highly recommend [...]</p>
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		<title>By: scottmarlowe.com - I don't get Twitter</title>
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		<dc:creator>scottmarlowe.com - I don't get Twitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] follow a number of professional bloggers who give various forms of advice regarding social interaction, driving people to your site, and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: peter parker</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/the-ultimate-men-with-pens-guide-to-twitter/comment-page-1#comment-10972</link>
		<dc:creator>peter parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>------------------------------------------------
Dave Winer, father of RSS says â€œTwitter, as it was conceived, was never meant to live.â€

â€œItâ€™s very possible with better engineering its architecture might have gone on for a few more years, but eventually it would have hit this wall, where there were too many people posting too many twits to too many followers. The scale of the system as conceived rises exponentially.â€

So is the end of Twitter getting near? I hope not. Twitter I hope that you are listening and you better start taking things more seriously.
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Here&#039;s my two cents.

For instance there are about 100m users of yahoo messenger and usually 2-3 of them talk at a time that means scalability of 300m conversations. On the other hand with 100m twitter users who usually send messages to 100-10,000 other users the scalability required is 10,000m to 10^6m I have never known any current architecture based on webservers to handle such a scale. So according to me Twitter was never meant to live. It is like a concept car that will never see production. Users of twitter don&#039;t understand this and they don&#039;t care. 
They don&#039;t know whats happening when the website is down. The sad part is that the best analysts claim that Twitter is a billion dollar company in one year of operations. There is an old saying before the days of when people understood permutation combinations. One peasant asked a king to give him rice equal to the total amount gotten by placing double the number of rice grains on a chess square than the previous square, starting with one rice grain. There are 8x8=64 squares. We seriously need to visit grade 7 mathematics. 

I know of only one News/Messaging system that supports around 1 billion users sending messages to all 1 billion users each. Thats a scalability of 10^12m. It is not Web based but rather on a massively scalable serverless P2P architecture based. The team is soft spoken and when I last talked to them I was told that they don&#039;t care about money or hype or fame but rather for just the passion of next generation global systems that will stand the test of worldwide use. Its called Mermaid News &lt;a href=&quot;http://mermaid.metaaso.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Mermaid &lt;/a&gt;

They have other softwares too but this post is about Twitter and Messaging. Once everyone comprehends basic mathematics that goes behind scalable algorithms they would go past the flashy screen and hype to actually want a system they can trust. To the analysts I would say it is easy to create a business plan, create a hype and raise $20m funding it is far more difficult to create something of use.</description>
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Dave Winer, father of RSS says â€œTwitter, as it was conceived, was never meant to live.â€</p>
<p>â€œItâ€™s very possible with better engineering its architecture might have gone on for a few more years, but eventually it would have hit this wall, where there were too many people posting too many twits to too many followers. The scale of the system as conceived rises exponentially.â€</p>
<p>So is the end of Twitter getting near? I hope not. Twitter I hope that you are listening and you better start taking things more seriously.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my two cents.</p>
<p>For instance there are about 100m users of yahoo messenger and usually 2-3 of them talk at a time that means scalability of 300m conversations. On the other hand with 100m twitter users who usually send messages to 100-10,000 other users the scalability required is 10,000m to 10^6m I have never known any current architecture based on webservers to handle such a scale. So according to me Twitter was never meant to live. It is like a concept car that will never see production. Users of twitter don&#8217;t understand this and they don&#8217;t care.<br />
They don&#8217;t know whats happening when the website is down. The sad part is that the best analysts claim that Twitter is a billion dollar company in one year of operations. There is an old saying before the days of when people understood permutation combinations. One peasant asked a king to give him rice equal to the total amount gotten by placing double the number of rice grains on a chess square than the previous square, starting with one rice grain. There are 8&#215;8=64 squares. We seriously need to visit grade 7 mathematics. </p>
<p>I know of only one News/Messaging system that supports around 1 billion users sending messages to all 1 billion users each. Thats a scalability of 10^12m. It is not Web based but rather on a massively scalable serverless P2P architecture based. The team is soft spoken and when I last talked to them I was told that they don&#8217;t care about money or hype or fame but rather for just the passion of next generation global systems that will stand the test of worldwide use. Its called Mermaid News <a href="http://mermaid.metaaso.com" rel="nofollow"> Mermaid </a></p>
<p>They have other softwares too but this post is about Twitter and Messaging. Once everyone comprehends basic mathematics that goes behind scalable algorithms they would go past the flashy screen and hype to actually want a system they can trust. To the analysts I would say it is easy to create a business plan, create a hype and raise $20m funding it is far more difficult to create something of use.</p>
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		<title>By: The Power of Disengagement &#124; Joshua Clanton - Design for the WEB</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Power of Disengagement &#124; Joshua Clanton - Design for the WEB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] there are exceptions, particularly if your service is social media, or if you&#8217;re an insanely social person and everyone knows [...]</description>
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		<title>By: kenobi</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/the-ultimate-men-with-pens-guide-to-twitter/comment-page-1#comment-7982</link>
		<dc:creator>kenobi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Janice, incredible isn&#039;t it? We&#039;re not all Fark readers: http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2008/04/wednesday_or_th.html

&lt;em&gt;kenobi&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Contentcontent/~3/276895544/shiny-media-blog-poster-takes-on-farks.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shiny Media&#039;s gadget blog takes on Fark&#039;s frat boys&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Janice, incredible isn&#8217;t it? We&#8217;re not all Fark readers: <a href="http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2008/04/wednesday_or_th.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2008/04/wednesday_or_th.html</a></p>
<p><em>kenobi&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Contentcontent/~3/276895544/shiny-media-blog-poster-takes-on-farks.html' rel="nofollow">Shiny Media&#8217;s gadget blog takes on Fark&#8217;s frat boys</a></em></p>
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