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		<title>By: Donâ€™t Be Creative â€“ Be Conventional &#124; Clover Road â€“ Branding</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/website-convention/#comment-27960</link>
		<dc:creator>Donâ€™t Be Creative â€“ Be Conventional &#124; Clover Road â€“ Branding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Website Design Convention Goes Too Far &#124; Men With Pens</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/website-convention/#comment-27821</link>
		<dc:creator>Website Design Convention Goes Too Far &#124; Men With Pens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] how far is too far? How much can you stretch the boundaries of convention? Where is the point when it all breaks down in functionality, usability or effectiveness and just [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tak Hikichi</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/website-convention/#comment-27778</link>
		<dc:creator>Tak Hikichi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love unconventional designed websites.  And I am not a designer at all. It engages me in very different ways than looking at &quot;another&quot; conventional, safe website (probably mine is another one too). 

Contrast from Ireland has a very unconventional website http://www.contrast.ie/  

To me, it&#039;s all about coming up with ways to tell a story.  If the website does that, I&#039;d love to see more and more unconventional designs.
.-= Tak Hikichi&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/MesaBlogger/~3/Omhdh7OVzK4/&quot;&gt;Need Employee Recognition Awards Ideas?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love unconventional designed websites.  And I am not a designer at all. It engages me in very different ways than looking at &#8220;another&#8221; conventional, safe website (probably mine is another one too). </p>
<p>Contrast from Ireland has a very unconventional website <a href="http://www.contrast.ie/" rel="nofollow">http://www.contrast.ie/</a>  </p>
<p>To me, it&#8217;s all about coming up with ways to tell a story.  If the website does that, I&#8217;d love to see more and more unconventional designs.<br />
.-= Tak Hikichi&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/MesaBlogger/~3/Omhdh7OVzK4/">Need Employee Recognition Awards Ideas?</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Madeline Ong</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/website-convention/#comment-27739</link>
		<dc:creator>Madeline Ong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Themed icons -- for example, doodles, toys, retro, antique. Themed icons can be done well, but sometimes they&#039;re done poorly -- especially when the theme becomes more important than the purpose of the icon. For example, a retro calendar icon that looks more like a pin-up poster may not be perceived by the user as representing a calendar. Web designers need to careful when choosing icons. Some may make for good art, but not good design.
.-= Madeline Ong&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://maddon.net/blog/2009/07/10-annoying-web-problems-and-how-to-solve-them/&quot;&gt;10 annoying web problems (and how to solve them)&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Themed icons &#8212; for example, doodles, toys, retro, antique. Themed icons can be done well, but sometimes they&#8217;re done poorly &#8212; especially when the theme becomes more important than the purpose of the icon. For example, a retro calendar icon that looks more like a pin-up poster may not be perceived by the user as representing a calendar. Web designers need to careful when choosing icons. Some may make for good art, but not good design.<br />
.-= Madeline Ong&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://maddon.net/blog/2009/07/10-annoying-web-problems-and-how-to-solve-them/">10 annoying web problems (and how to solve them)</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Leadership</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/website-convention/#comment-27738</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Leadership</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points. I hate not being able to navigate efficiently through various sites. I&#039;m all about the efficiency, so this article took it right home for me! --- thanks for the info! -alex
.-= Christian Leadership&#180;s last blog ..Integrity: A Leaderâ€™s Most Important Quality =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points. I hate not being able to navigate efficiently through various sites. I&#8217;m all about the efficiency, so this article took it right home for me! &#8212; thanks for the info! -alex<br />
.-= Christian Leadership&#180;s last blog ..Integrity: A Leaderâ€™s Most Important Quality =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Stacy</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/website-convention/#comment-27734</link>
		<dc:creator>Stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to having standard features in the right places, I think the &quot;less is more&quot; adage also applies to website design. I came across a site the other week with what appeared to be tons of useful information, but the layout was so cluttered that I had to click away.
.-= Stacy&#180;s last blog ..Funny Dating Writer Wanted =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to having standard features in the right places, I think the &#8220;less is more&#8221; adage also applies to website design. I came across a site the other week with what appeared to be tons of useful information, but the layout was so cluttered that I had to click away.<br />
.-= Stacy&#180;s last blog ..Funny Dating Writer Wanted =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Kolber</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/website-convention/#comment-27732</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Kolber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I write and produce TV for a living and though I am hired frequently for knowing how to be innovative and &quot;oustide the box&quot;, at the end of the day the guys are right - you have to use conventional signposting or risk confusion. The risk on TV is that if we push too far, people will change the channel. Online, they leave the site.

That said, if you are somewhat conventional in your site design (or how I present info in a TV show) you can experiment within the content.  Something/someone that feels familiar is far more likely to be trusted as a source of inspirational information than someone/something that creates a sense of un-ease or confusion.

This is assuming that you are creating with the intention of inspiring growth in others, which certainly seems to be true of the community here at MenWithPens.
.-= Jerry Kolber&#180;s last blog ..Stop Reading and Make Something =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I write and produce TV for a living and though I am hired frequently for knowing how to be innovative and &#8220;oustide the box&#8221;, at the end of the day the guys are right &#8211; you have to use conventional signposting or risk confusion. The risk on TV is that if we push too far, people will change the channel. Online, they leave the site.</p>
<p>That said, if you are somewhat conventional in your site design (or how I present info in a TV show) you can experiment within the content.  Something/someone that feels familiar is far more likely to be trusted as a source of inspirational information than someone/something that creates a sense of un-ease or confusion.</p>
<p>This is assuming that you are creating with the intention of inspiring growth in others, which certainly seems to be true of the community here at MenWithPens.<br />
.-= Jerry Kolber&#180;s last blog ..Stop Reading and Make Something =-.</p>
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		<title>By: UPrinting</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/website-convention/#comment-27729</link>
		<dc:creator>UPrinting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent point! Conventions are definitely the way to go in website design. I know I wouldn&#039;t want to go to a site and still have to figure out where the navigation bar is. Some conventions that I can think of: a search box definitely, a subscription box, a profile page with contact details or a contact form at least, and an archive of posts.
The simpler and less cluttered a site is, then the better. Readers would find it less likely to click away from your site. Simple doesn&#039;t have to mean boring either. Sometimes the most striking and effective designs can be the simplest ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent point! Conventions are definitely the way to go in website design. I know I wouldn&#8217;t want to go to a site and still have to figure out where the navigation bar is. Some conventions that I can think of: a search box definitely, a subscription box, a profile page with contact details or a contact form at least, and an archive of posts.<br />
The simpler and less cluttered a site is, then the better. Readers would find it less likely to click away from your site. Simple doesn&#8217;t have to mean boring either. Sometimes the most striking and effective designs can be the simplest ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/website-convention/#comment-27724</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Melinda: Sometimes short and sweet is the way to go! I think lacking a contact page is a big one. I see so many sites that either don&#039;t have one or you have to spend an hour trying to find it. The product or services would have to be really good for me to want to keep searching. Don&#039;t lose potential business! Get a contact page!

@Patrick: Yes, narrower columns do help readability. There&#039;s a reason why blog posts have short, quick paragraphs. Everything is more compact because the attention span is so short online and it&#039;s also difficult on the eyes looking at the monitor for extended periods of time.

@Mark W: Absolutely! Don&#039;t get carried away with widgets. So many people want to put everything but the kitchen sink in the sidebar and most of it&#039;s crap. Keep it simple and stick to the basics and always, always remember, it&#039;s not about you, it&#039;s about your visitors!

@Kelly: You know, I think about that every time I eat Chinese, or Japanese food for that matter. It&#039;s user friendly. And with the Japanese especially, it&#039;s also about presentation, too. Both work in harmony to give the user the best experience possible.

@Barbara: When it comes down to usability on the web, the simpler the better. That&#039;s not to say you&#039;re dumbing down your site for anyone. Not at all. You&#039;re providing a road map and it has to be as clear as possible so nobody gets lost.

@Robert: Clear not clever. That&#039;s the key! The moment you start to get clever with any of your conventions you risk losing your audience. The real trick is to use just enough change to make it unique, yet retain some form of familiarity without causing confusion.

@Mariana: All very good points, especially when it comes to large websites with lots of pages. Nothing&#039;s worse than getting lost in a site and you&#039;re unable to find your way to where you started.

@Write a Writing: Usually if the content is worth reading and the site is hard to navigate I&#039;ll use the feedreader ;)

@Kaushik: The main navigation is key. That&#039;s the one area where people are always going to look for direction and if you can fit all the basics in there, use that, and save your sidebars for other stuff.

@BebopDesigner: I think conventions should be changed slowly. It takes people some time to get used to them, and if they&#039;re good ones, they&#039;ll stick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Melinda: Sometimes short and sweet is the way to go! I think lacking a contact page is a big one. I see so many sites that either don&#8217;t have one or you have to spend an hour trying to find it. The product or services would have to be really good for me to want to keep searching. Don&#8217;t lose potential business! Get a contact page!</p>
<p>@Patrick: Yes, narrower columns do help readability. There&#8217;s a reason why blog posts have short, quick paragraphs. Everything is more compact because the attention span is so short online and it&#8217;s also difficult on the eyes looking at the monitor for extended periods of time.</p>
<p>@Mark W: Absolutely! Don&#8217;t get carried away with widgets. So many people want to put everything but the kitchen sink in the sidebar and most of it&#8217;s crap. Keep it simple and stick to the basics and always, always remember, it&#8217;s not about you, it&#8217;s about your visitors!</p>
<p>@Kelly: You know, I think about that every time I eat Chinese, or Japanese food for that matter. It&#8217;s user friendly. And with the Japanese especially, it&#8217;s also about presentation, too. Both work in harmony to give the user the best experience possible.</p>
<p>@Barbara: When it comes down to usability on the web, the simpler the better. That&#8217;s not to say you&#8217;re dumbing down your site for anyone. Not at all. You&#8217;re providing a road map and it has to be as clear as possible so nobody gets lost.</p>
<p>@Robert: Clear not clever. That&#8217;s the key! The moment you start to get clever with any of your conventions you risk losing your audience. The real trick is to use just enough change to make it unique, yet retain some form of familiarity without causing confusion.</p>
<p>@Mariana: All very good points, especially when it comes to large websites with lots of pages. Nothing&#8217;s worse than getting lost in a site and you&#8217;re unable to find your way to where you started.</p>
<p>@Write a Writing: Usually if the content is worth reading and the site is hard to navigate I&#8217;ll use the feedreader <img src='http://cdn.menwithpens.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Kaushik: The main navigation is key. That&#8217;s the one area where people are always going to look for direction and if you can fit all the basics in there, use that, and save your sidebars for other stuff.</p>
<p>@BebopDesigner: I think conventions should be changed slowly. It takes people some time to get used to them, and if they&#8217;re good ones, they&#8217;ll stick.</p>
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		<title>By: BebopDesigner</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/website-convention/#comment-27721</link>
		<dc:creator>BebopDesigner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We rely too much  on conventions. How could we not? But then again, they continue evolving every now and then. Remember how during the 50&#039;s smoking was fashionable and socially accepted? I guess if common sense is behind the wheel when it comes to change; then dumping old conventions and creating new ones can really improve things. As long as they&#039;re for the benefit of everyone. What do you reckon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We rely too much  on conventions. How could we not? But then again, they continue evolving every now and then. Remember how during the 50&#8242;s smoking was fashionable and socially accepted? I guess if common sense is behind the wheel when it comes to change; then dumping old conventions and creating new ones can really improve things. As long as they&#8217;re for the benefit of everyone. What do you reckon?</p>
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