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		<title>By: Emotional Benefits: Are You Using Them Enough? &#124; Men With Pens</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/website-copy-benefits-2/comment-page-1#comment-34964</link>
		<dc:creator>Emotional Benefits: Are You Using Them Enough? &#124; Men With Pens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 00:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  what does a compelling, clear benefit look like? Let&#8217;s use my teen as an example and see what we can come up [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Please help asap</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/website-copy-benefits-2/comment-page-1#comment-27850</link>
		<dc:creator>Please help asap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Right now, the way your site is...getting traffic is not the main issue.  Right now, the main issue is to fix your sales page. You can have a bazillion people visit but if none buy, that&#039;s pretty useless.  Once your page is fixed, you can think about traffic.  Your sales page first needs a catchy title, something that keeps visitors ON the page to learn more. Something like:  Save your sanity and make your family life run smoother...all for less than it would cost you for a lunch for 4 at Mcdonalds!  Then you could write your sales copy that extols what your product delivers to people smart enough to buy. Website Copy with Benefits: James&#8217; Take &#124; Men With Pens [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Right now, the way your site is&#8230;getting traffic is not the main issue.  Right now, the main issue is to fix your sales page. You can have a bazillion people visit but if none buy, that&#39;s pretty useless.  Once your page is fixed, you can think about traffic.  Your sales page first needs a catchy title, something that keeps visitors ON the page to learn more. Something like:  Save your sanity and make your family life run smoother&#8230;all for less than it would cost you for a lunch for 4 at Mcdonalds!  Then you could write your sales copy that extols what your product delivers to people smart enough to buy. Website Copy with Benefits: James&#8217; Take | Men With Pens [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bamboo Forest - PunIntended</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/website-copy-benefits-2/comment-page-1#comment-25791</link>
		<dc:creator>Bamboo Forest - PunIntended</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to correct the above typo.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bamboo Forest - PunIntended&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://punintended.com/blog/how-to-make-the-choices-you-really-want-to-make-in-life/&quot;&gt;How to Make the Choices You Really Want to Make in Life&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to correct the above typo.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Bamboo Forest &#8211; PunIntended&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://punintended.com/blog/how-to-make-the-choices-you-really-want-to-make-in-life/">How to Make the Choices You Really Want to Make in Life</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Bamboo Forest - PunIntended</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/website-copy-benefits-2/comment-page-1#comment-25790</link>
		<dc:creator>Bamboo Forest - PunIntended</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, your post comes down to once concept: Convince your prospective customer that this is what they want.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bamboo Forest - PunIntended&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://punintended.com/blog/how-to-make-the-choices-you-really-want-to-make-in-life/&quot;&gt;How to Make the Choices You Really Want to Make in Life&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, your post comes down to once concept: Convince your prospective customer that this is what they want.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Bamboo Forest &#8211; PunIntended&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://punintended.com/blog/how-to-make-the-choices-you-really-want-to-make-in-life/">How to Make the Choices You Really Want to Make in Life</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Melinda</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/website-copy-benefits-2/comment-page-1#comment-25688</link>
		<dc:creator>Melinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry James, didn&#039;t mean to make you cry! I realised I had seen at least some of your Guns for Hire pages, however not from the link in the navigation.  I&#039;ve followed links in posts instead.

After I posted the previous comment I realised that I had to have seen at least the Drive Through Shooting page because that&#039;s where the payment method for it is.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Melinda&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://wahmbizbuilder.com/business/teleseminars/blogathon-april-2009/&quot;&gt;Free Blogathon April 2009 - Come Join Us!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry James, didn&#8217;t mean to make you cry! I realised I had seen at least some of your Guns for Hire pages, however not from the link in the navigation.  I&#8217;ve followed links in posts instead.</p>
<p>After I posted the previous comment I realised that I had to have seen at least the Drive Through Shooting page because that&#8217;s where the payment method for it is.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Melinda&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://wahmbizbuilder.com/business/teleseminars/blogathon-april-2009/">Free Blogathon April 2009 &#8211; Come Join Us!</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mel - I cry. You&#039;ve never seen our &#039;Guns for Hire&#039; pages? (Makes me wonder how many other people haven&#039;t either... oy!)

@ Alex - You get one Get Out of Jail Free card. You don&#039;t have to remember what I wrote - just that we were awesome :)  And good plans. Glad I got you thinking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mel &#8211; I cry. You&#8217;ve never seen our &#8216;Guns for Hire&#8217; pages? (Makes me wonder how many other people haven&#8217;t either&#8230; oy!)</p>
<p>@ Alex &#8211; You get one Get Out of Jail Free card. You don&#8217;t have to remember what I wrote &#8211; just that we were awesome <img src='http://menwithpens.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   And good plans. Glad I got you thinking!</p>
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		<title>By: Melinda</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/website-copy-benefits-2/comment-page-1#comment-25685</link>
		<dc:creator>Melinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Men With Pens has a Hire Us page?  Really?  I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever looked at it!  Still hired them....  Off to look at it now.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Melinda&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://wahmbizbuilder.com/business/teleseminars/blogathon-april-2009/&quot;&gt;Free Blogathon April 2009 - Come Join Us!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Men With Pens has a Hire Us page?  Really?  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever looked at it!  Still hired them&#8230;.  Off to look at it now.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Melinda&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://wahmbizbuilder.com/business/teleseminars/blogathon-april-2009/">Free Blogathon April 2009 &#8211; Come Join Us!</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Alex Fayle &#124; Someday Syndrome</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/website-copy-benefits-2/comment-page-1#comment-25683</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Fayle &#124; Someday Syndrome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James
Just to agree with you on the no-hard-sell here.

I&#039;m sure I&#039;ve looked at your hire-us page, but I can&#039;t for the life of me recall what any of it says. I hired you because, as you know, you drew me in with an offer of assistance and then your knowledge and the testimonials cinched it.

Oh, epiphanic moment... brain now hurts - must go away and consider what just popped into my head...

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Alex Fayle &#124; Someday Syndrome&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SomedaySyndrome/~3/7vyk-9Atj3s/&quot;&gt;Wealth is Attitude, Not Income&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James<br />
Just to agree with you on the no-hard-sell here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ve looked at your hire-us page, but I can&#8217;t for the life of me recall what any of it says. I hired you because, as you know, you drew me in with an offer of assistance and then your knowledge and the testimonials cinched it.</p>
<p>Oh, epiphanic moment&#8230; brain now hurts &#8211; must go away and consider what just popped into my head&#8230;</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Alex Fayle | Someday Syndrome&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SomedaySyndrome/~3/7vyk-9Atj3s/">Wealth is Attitude, Not Income</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Alex Fayle &#124; Someday Syndrome</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/website-copy-benefits-2/comment-page-1#comment-25682</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Fayle &#124; Someday Syndrome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James
You exaggerated so I decided I could do the same. Isn&#039;t that how it works? No? ;)

I&#039;m a sucker for advertising like everyone else. After all like everyone in our generation I was culturally indoctrinated, but I got a Zen instead of an iPod because it held 8 times as much for the same price. I bought an Echo instead of a hybrid because the mileage on the Echo was better. Clothes brands have never impressed me - it all depends on the way clothes are made and how I look in them. I make an effort to focus on getting past the benefits. But yeah, the picture of the hot guy wearing a pair of underwear makes me want to spend the money - however nine times out of ten I don&#039;t.

And in the ebook online world quite honestly, every time I&#039;ve bought based on the hype of benefits, I&#039;ve felt I&#039;ve wasted my money. When I&#039;ve bought solely for research purposes (checking out what others do) I haven&#039;t been disappointed because I wasn&#039;t looking for the benefit the books were promising. I was solely interested in the features.

Now, how that does affect my own products? Well, I&#039;ve loaded my services with a whole lot of practical information and opportunities to measure progress along the way. I know that others buy through benefits, so I hire you to give those benefits some sizzle, there&#039;s a damn good steak cooking away causing that sizzle.

And my forthcoming ebook? It&#039;ll be priced to something comparable in print, rather then what ebooks tend to go for. And people will be able to consult an extract to see if it&#039;s exactly what they want or not, just as Amazon now does with many of their books.

I always love these posts because you force me to think things through.

PS Escaping marketing messages is like trying to escape cultural religious conditioning. I don&#039;t consider myself a Christian, but put me in a stressful situation and I start praying to whatever/whoever might be listening. Religions and sales people rely on this indoctrination to sell to the masses. ;)

PPS In Spain they call selling pretty much any type of service based business &quot;selling smoke&quot; - they highly distrust the service industries like coaching, consulting and psychology. But when they find out I sell my coaching to English people around the world, they say &quot;oh, well you&#039;ll do well then. The English buy anything [silly] like that.&quot;

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Alex Fayle &#124; Someday Syndrome&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SomedaySyndrome/~3/7vyk-9Atj3s/&quot;&gt;Wealth is Attitude, Not Income&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James<br />
You exaggerated so I decided I could do the same. Isn&#8217;t that how it works? No? <img src='http://menwithpens.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a sucker for advertising like everyone else. After all like everyone in our generation I was culturally indoctrinated, but I got a Zen instead of an iPod because it held 8 times as much for the same price. I bought an Echo instead of a hybrid because the mileage on the Echo was better. Clothes brands have never impressed me &#8211; it all depends on the way clothes are made and how I look in them. I make an effort to focus on getting past the benefits. But yeah, the picture of the hot guy wearing a pair of underwear makes me want to spend the money &#8211; however nine times out of ten I don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>And in the ebook online world quite honestly, every time I&#8217;ve bought based on the hype of benefits, I&#8217;ve felt I&#8217;ve wasted my money. When I&#8217;ve bought solely for research purposes (checking out what others do) I haven&#8217;t been disappointed because I wasn&#8217;t looking for the benefit the books were promising. I was solely interested in the features.</p>
<p>Now, how that does affect my own products? Well, I&#8217;ve loaded my services with a whole lot of practical information and opportunities to measure progress along the way. I know that others buy through benefits, so I hire you to give those benefits some sizzle, there&#8217;s a damn good steak cooking away causing that sizzle.</p>
<p>And my forthcoming ebook? It&#8217;ll be priced to something comparable in print, rather then what ebooks tend to go for. And people will be able to consult an extract to see if it&#8217;s exactly what they want or not, just as Amazon now does with many of their books.</p>
<p>I always love these posts because you force me to think things through.</p>
<p>PS Escaping marketing messages is like trying to escape cultural religious conditioning. I don&#8217;t consider myself a Christian, but put me in a stressful situation and I start praying to whatever/whoever might be listening. Religions and sales people rely on this indoctrination to sell to the masses. <img src='http://menwithpens.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>PPS In Spain they call selling pretty much any type of service based business &#8220;selling smoke&#8221; &#8211; they highly distrust the service industries like coaching, consulting and psychology. But when they find out I sell my coaching to English people around the world, they say &#8220;oh, well you&#8217;ll do well then. The English buy anything [silly] like that.&#8221;</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Alex Fayle | Someday Syndrome&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SomedaySyndrome/~3/7vyk-9Atj3s/">Wealth is Attitude, Not Income</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Alex - So what you&#039;re saying is that 99% of all marketing doesn&#039;t work on you?

You can say it, but I ain&#039;t believing it... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Alex &#8211; So what you&#8217;re saying is that 99% of all marketing doesn&#8217;t work on you?</p>
<p>You can say it, but I ain&#8217;t believing it&#8230; <img src='http://menwithpens.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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