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		<title>By: How to Ride the River Rapids of the Virtual World &#124; Men With Pens</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/when-freelancing-isnt-free/#comment-11785</link>
		<dc:creator>How to Ride the River Rapids of the Virtual World &#124; Men With Pens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] two tactics and slam them together like a hurricane, making lightening-fast decisions about our lives and the lives of people who depend on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Should You Turn Off Your Telephone? &#124; Men With Pens</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/when-freelancing-isnt-free/#comment-10741</link>
		<dc:creator>Should You Turn Off Your Telephone? &#124; Men With Pens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to family and close friends. I communicate via email and instant messenger because this is my life, my business and my preference â€“ and there isn&#8217;t one thing wrong with [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Some love for others. Especially Men with Pens. &#171; Rogue Ink</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/when-freelancing-isnt-free/#comment-5630</link>
		<dc:creator>Some love for others. Especially Men with Pens. &#171; Rogue Ink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Men with Pens, who related a story that should bring tears to the eyes of any freelancer, about shoveling horseshit for a living, and this guy Brett, who said nice things about my blog and my writing, and this lovely woman [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Men with Pens, who related a story that should bring tears to the eyes of any freelancer, about shoveling horseshit for a living, and this guy Brett, who said nice things about my blog and my writing, and this lovely woman [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Legree</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/when-freelancing-isnt-free/#comment-5629</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Legree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tei, you are very welcome - the graphic really grabs a viewer when landing at the site, so you have something special there.  I will definitely be back to hang out.

The other thing I wanted to say was WOO HOO congratulations on your first article in the SF Chronicle!!!  That is so wonderful :) I am so happy for you.

And thank *you* for the blog compliment.  I still stare at the new design, the Men did a bang up job.  You will get there, and then they can work on your blog if you want.  For now, I think it is perfect.

That is a very original idea you have for your novel.  I think it would do very well.  Thank you for sharing that!

&lt;em&gt;Brett Legree&#039;s last blog post..the power of one.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tei, you are very welcome &#8211; the graphic really grabs a viewer when landing at the site, so you have something special there.  I will definitely be back to hang out.</p>
<p>The other thing I wanted to say was WOO HOO congratulations on your first article in the SF Chronicle!!!  That is so wonderful <img src='http://menwithpens.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I am so happy for you.</p>
<p>And thank *you* for the blog compliment.  I still stare at the new design, the Men did a bang up job.  You will get there, and then they can work on your blog if you want.  For now, I think it is perfect.</p>
<p>That is a very original idea you have for your novel.  I think it would do very well.  Thank you for sharing that!</p>
<p><em>Brett Legree&#8217;s last blog post..the power of one.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Tei</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/when-freelancing-isnt-free/#comment-5624</link>
		<dc:creator>Tei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you muchly for the blog compliment, Brett! It&#039;s a new venture for me and it&#039;s a little difficult to keep going with brand-new traffic (i.e., good friends and family and the occasional other browsing writer). Come around and commentate anytime you want!

It&#039;s funny, I was just looking through MwP archives and saw their redesign on your blog. It looks amazing. I may have to hire these guys to do something pretty and exciting to mine. If I were a rich woman. Ya ha deedle deedle, bubba deedle deedle dum. 

The novel I was working on was about a call girl. I was interested in how a high-class call girl basically has the same sort of responsibilities in a relationship as an upper-class married woman, minus the child-rearing. It&#039;s on hold right now, while I learn to be a professional, but I&#039;d like to return to it soon.

&lt;em&gt;Tei&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://rogueink.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/link-to-my-article/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link to my article!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you muchly for the blog compliment, Brett! It&#8217;s a new venture for me and it&#8217;s a little difficult to keep going with brand-new traffic (i.e., good friends and family and the occasional other browsing writer). Come around and commentate anytime you want!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny, I was just looking through MwP archives and saw their redesign on your blog. It looks amazing. I may have to hire these guys to do something pretty and exciting to mine. If I were a rich woman. Ya ha deedle deedle, bubba deedle deedle dum. </p>
<p>The novel I was working on was about a call girl. I was interested in how a high-class call girl basically has the same sort of responsibilities in a relationship as an upper-class married woman, minus the child-rearing. It&#8217;s on hold right now, while I learn to be a professional, but I&#8217;d like to return to it soon.</p>
<p><em>Tei&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://rogueink.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/link-to-my-article/' rel="nofollow">Link to my article!</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Brett Legree</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/when-freelancing-isnt-free/#comment-5623</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Legree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ James: the best job I ever had was the first one I had out of school.  I make over double the money now.  But that first job was the best one.  Freedom, challenge, camaraderie.  The boss kept a beer fridge in the office.  But he couldn&#039;t pay a lot.  Times changed for me, and I had to leave.  The boss actually cried when I left.  I still keep in touch with him.  Awesome guy.

Money is nice.  You need money to pay the bills for sure.  But we need to be happy too.  By the way I love your story too.  It reminds me of my story of wanting to trade places with that farmer.

I&#039;ll sharpen my saw and clear your woodlot... what do you want, corn or potatoes?

@ Tei: keep at it.  Never give up.  You write very well (in my non-expert opinion).  And you have a great blog.  You&#039;ll get there.  What is your novel about?

&lt;em&gt;Brett Legree&#039;s last blog post..the power of one.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ James: the best job I ever had was the first one I had out of school.  I make over double the money now.  But that first job was the best one.  Freedom, challenge, camaraderie.  The boss kept a beer fridge in the office.  But he couldn&#8217;t pay a lot.  Times changed for me, and I had to leave.  The boss actually cried when I left.  I still keep in touch with him.  Awesome guy.</p>
<p>Money is nice.  You need money to pay the bills for sure.  But we need to be happy too.  By the way I love your story too.  It reminds me of my story of wanting to trade places with that farmer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll sharpen my saw and clear your woodlot&#8230; what do you want, corn or potatoes?</p>
<p>@ Tei: keep at it.  Never give up.  You write very well (in my non-expert opinion).  And you have a great blog.  You&#8217;ll get there.  What is your novel about?</p>
<p><em>Brett Legree&#8217;s last blog post..the power of one.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Tei</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/when-freelancing-isnt-free/#comment-5622</link>
		<dc:creator>Tei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a wonderful story. Shoveling horseshit. It just doesn&#039;t get any more romantic than that. 

Myself, I worked as a swordfighting instructor for a dear friend, whose business never did get off the ground. Watching him did teach me an awful lot about running one, though, and I josh with him now about his failure being my success. 

Karen, I&#039;ll definitely be hitting you up for that information in about a week. I DO actually have a few assignments right now - have to go run and finish an article for the SF Chronicle right this second, actually - but I&#039;ll be wondering what to do with myself next week, so I&#039;ll probably come seeking guidance about then. Thanks for offering!

&lt;em&gt;Tei&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://rogueink.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/when-i-was-a-girl-we-were-taught-how-to-write/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;When I was a girl, we were taught how to write.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a wonderful story. Shoveling horseshit. It just doesn&#8217;t get any more romantic than that. </p>
<p>Myself, I worked as a swordfighting instructor for a dear friend, whose business never did get off the ground. Watching him did teach me an awful lot about running one, though, and I josh with him now about his failure being my success. </p>
<p>Karen, I&#8217;ll definitely be hitting you up for that information in about a week. I DO actually have a few assignments right now &#8211; have to go run and finish an article for the SF Chronicle right this second, actually &#8211; but I&#8217;ll be wondering what to do with myself next week, so I&#8217;ll probably come seeking guidance about then. Thanks for offering!</p>
<p><em>Tei&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://rogueink.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/when-i-was-a-girl-we-were-taught-how-to-write/' rel="nofollow">When I was a girl, we were taught how to write.</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Karen Swim</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/when-freelancing-isnt-free/#comment-5620</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Swim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ James &quot;For five years, I shoveled shit in a stable&quot; That explains a lot!  LOL!  Okay, sorry you made it too easy!  LOL!

@ Tei welcome to the revolution!  Freedom! If you need help with Elance or Guru let me know.  I&#039;m happy to share my inside tips. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ James &#8220;For five years, I shoveled shit in a stable&#8221; That explains a lot!  LOL!  Okay, sorry you made it too easy!  LOL!</p>
<p>@ Tei welcome to the revolution!  Freedom! If you need help with Elance or Guru let me know.  I&#8217;m happy to share my inside tips. <img src='http://menwithpens.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/when-freelancing-isnt-free/#comment-5618</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll tell you a story, Tei.

Unionized salary, $20 an hour. Paid vacation per year: 6 weeks. Paid mobile sick days per year: 7. Position: Supervisory administrative. Potential for promotion: High. 

I lost that when the company moved two cities over. I took three months off and went back into horses full time.

For five years, I shoveled shit in a stable, groomed big-ass horses that were high-strung and dangerous, and guided absolute newbies around on horseback in the woods.

Salary: $8 an hour. Lunch: Unpaid. Vacation: None. Job security: Seasonal, 5 months a year.

I was never happier.  Except for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll tell you a story, Tei.</p>
<p>Unionized salary, $20 an hour. Paid vacation per year: 6 weeks. Paid mobile sick days per year: 7. Position: Supervisory administrative. Potential for promotion: High. </p>
<p>I lost that when the company moved two cities over. I took three months off and went back into horses full time.</p>
<p>For five years, I shoveled shit in a stable, groomed big-ass horses that were high-strung and dangerous, and guided absolute newbies around on horseback in the woods.</p>
<p>Salary: $8 an hour. Lunch: Unpaid. Vacation: None. Job security: Seasonal, 5 months a year.</p>
<p>I was never happier.  Except for now.</p>
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		<title>By: Tei</title>
		<link>http://menwithpens.ca/when-freelancing-isnt-free/#comment-5617</link>
		<dc:creator>Tei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, you guys are sweet! I wasn&#039;t really all that depressed about it, but I must have sounded it, since everyone broke out their &quot;Cheer Up!&quot; wordsmithery. Thanks for that.

Karen, I read the big exchange and blog post on auction sites, and immediately went over to elance and Guru to sign up, and I&#039;m still futzing about getting a profile properly up and running, but I&#039;m definitely going to be taking advantage of that outlet! Thanks to MwP and all of you for the running commentary there, because I&#039;d only ever encountered the evil &#039;5 cents per article&#039; sorts of freelance sites before, so I would never have continued to hunt for the lucrative and legitimate equivalents. 

You know, it&#039;s funny, I AM broke, but I&#039;m also working from a home office and properly running a freelance writing business full-time, and I&#039;m happier than I&#039;ve ever been in my life. This is rapidly becoming one my favorite forums to talk about it in, so thanks for being here.

&lt;em&gt;Tei&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://rogueink.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/when-i-was-a-girl-we-were-taught-how-to-write/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;When I was a girl, we were taught how to write.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, you guys are sweet! I wasn&#8217;t really all that depressed about it, but I must have sounded it, since everyone broke out their &#8220;Cheer Up!&#8221; wordsmithery. Thanks for that.</p>
<p>Karen, I read the big exchange and blog post on auction sites, and immediately went over to elance and Guru to sign up, and I&#8217;m still futzing about getting a profile properly up and running, but I&#8217;m definitely going to be taking advantage of that outlet! Thanks to MwP and all of you for the running commentary there, because I&#8217;d only ever encountered the evil &#8217;5 cents per article&#8217; sorts of freelance sites before, so I would never have continued to hunt for the lucrative and legitimate equivalents. </p>
<p>You know, it&#8217;s funny, I AM broke, but I&#8217;m also working from a home office and properly running a freelance writing business full-time, and I&#8217;m happier than I&#8217;ve ever been in my life. This is rapidly becoming one my favorite forums to talk about it in, so thanks for being here.</p>
<p><em>Tei&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://rogueink.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/when-i-was-a-girl-we-were-taught-how-to-write/' rel="nofollow">When I was a girl, we were taught how to write.</a></em></p>
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